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 Bulking results. Time to lose some BF.
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 737) |
posted August 14, 2000 07:58 PM
  
Hello all, Just wanted to give everyone an update so far as to my cycle results. I did a bulking cycle and am going straight into cutting. This was my first intelligent cycle. I say intelligent because I have had 2 previous cycles which were not well planned to say the least. The first was a cycle of dbol in which I took 4 per day for 3 weeks and gained about 7 pounds. The second was only three shots of sust, one per week stacked with 200 mgs of deca for 7 weeks. I gained about 8-10 lbs off that cycle. At the time I had no clue what I was doing. Since then I made it a point to learn everything I could about AS. I have learned a whole lot in the past two years. I pretty much read anything I can get my hands on about AS or anything related to BB. I have been training for about 4 years minus a few off periods and have made slow but steady progress. I am currently on my first real anabolic cycle. I planned it using elitefitness and this board. Anyway here is the cycle. Sust-250 mg every 4 days for 8 weeks That was the bulking phase. BTW, my diet was approximately 5000 calories. It wasn't a perfect diet so I am surprised that I didn't pick up more fat. I ate a ton of whey protien (about 170 grams worth a day) which is in addition to the protien I got from my food. I picked up about 17 lbs with hardly any additional BF. Before the cycle I weighed in at 186 at about 15% BF. I am currently at about 203 at about the same BF although I haven't had it checked yet. Now comes the cutting. I started powdered winny the last 2 weeks of my bulking cycle and will continue it throughout the cutting phase at 50 mg per day. This will be stacked with 300 mg of primo per week for 5 weeks. The total length of the cutting phase is 5 weeks. To shed the BF I am doing a clen, t3, and xenadrine stack recommended to me by Decaman. Actually I already had planned to do the t3 the same way he told me that he did but he helped me with the clen and ECA part. (Thanks Decaman). Anyway here is the cycle. T3------------------clen----------Xenadrine I will continue with the ECA and clen for 2 more weeks to help keep the BF down and give my thyroid a little time to normalize. Diet will be around 2000 calories per day. I will try to do cardio at least 3 or 4 times per week first thing in the morning. My goal is to get below 10%, hopefully well below 10%. We will see how it goes. I will keep the board updated. Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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Consultant Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 123) |
posted August 14, 2000 08:04 PM
Looks good! I know that the thyroid holds all the keys but I am very skepetical about screwin with it. My personal opinion easy up on the t-3 and keep the eca longer! IP: Logged |
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chestyII Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 888) |
posted August 14, 2000 08:25 PM
First, good job bro, second I agree ease up on the T3 I wouldn't go above 3 a day until you know how it will affect you. Mess up the thyroid and you screwed. Other than that looks great. You'll like the primo. chesty ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Krusher Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 493) |
posted August 14, 2000 08:39 PM
If you're looking to drop at least 5% bf then you might need to stretch the cycle out by a couple more weeks. IP: Logged |
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Krusher Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 493) |
posted August 14, 2000 08:42 PM
Forgot to mention, your cycle plan looks very good and I plan on using a similar plan (bulk to cutting stack) for all my future cycles, you should be able to retain your size better when you go off. IP: Logged |
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Bchemist Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 237) |
posted August 14, 2000 08:45 PM
Great to hear that it's working out so far...keep it up bro! IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 737) |
posted August 14, 2000 09:22 PM
Thanks for the input. I will consider taking the t3 at no more than 3 per day but most likely I will probably leave it like it is. If I get to week 3 and am losing BF very fast, perhaps then I will shorten it. We'll just have to see. One reason that I want to keep it the same is because I am not as scared of the t3 as I used to be. The reason is because I posted a question on this board a while back asking if anyone knew of someone who had fucked up their thyroid. To my surprise everyone replied with a big NO. Someone, not sure who, even said that there was a reward on another website of $100 for anyone who could find actual proof of someone fuckin up their thyroid with t3. And someome else said that there were alot of BB on another board who reportedly took up to 300 mcg with no tapering and didn't fuck up their thyroid. And I know that these comments don't mean it is perfectly safe but I have tried myself to find documented cases of people fuckin up their thyroid and haven't been able to find any on the net. So it is a risky drug but your chances of fucking it up if you do it right are slim to none. So like I said I think I will keep it like it is but thanks for the advise. I will keep the board updated. Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 737) |
posted August 14, 2000 09:26 PM
All that is, of course, assuming you have a normal thyroid, which I do. IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 897) |
posted August 15, 2000 01:01 AM
I said it before and I will say it again. GO GET FUCKIN SHREDDED NOW MAV! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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THE APE Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 502) |
posted August 15, 2000 01:33 AM
Mav,big congrats on your bulking cycle bro.Looking forward to hear how low you drop your bf on the cutting one.Are you going to post us some pics? IP: Logged |
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thefantom1 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 78) |
posted August 15, 2000 02:16 AM
Good job Mav... I might also add that we are about the same size..(I think my bodyfat is lower though :-) ) Seriously though sounds like you did good... IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 737) |
posted August 15, 2000 03:50 PM
Thanks for the kind words fellas. I will try to post some pics but I suck with computers and really don't know how to use my scanner. I will do my best though. Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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delts Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 343) |
posted August 15, 2000 04:57 PM
Good post Mav, I'm very much in the same boat as you. Just finished my first bulking cycle and I gained roughly what you gained and I weigh just a little less. Interested in pursuing a cutting cycle and would like to see your results. Keep us all posted bro! delts ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Spunky Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 266) |
posted August 15, 2000 05:34 PM
Damn, sounds like alot of us are about the same. I started my bulking cycle around 190lbs (roughly) and im about 205 right now. I'm gonna keep scarfin the protein and calories till I hit 215, then im gonna start my cutting cycle. This dbol is making me pack on mass like a madman, I love it! IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 737) |
posted August 15, 2000 05:52 PM
I was thinking of possibly even dropping my calories down to below 2000. Would this be a bad idea. I really want to lose some major BF and I really don't mind losing a little muscle as long as its just a few pounds. I would like to hit 8% BF. I know for a cycle this short that will be hard. I don't want to lose alot of muscle so if dropping my calories too much will make me lose muscle, I won't try it. Any advice fellas? Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 737) |
posted August 15, 2000 06:52 PM
Bump! Need some diet advice. See post above. IP: Logged |
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Hacker Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 72) |
posted August 15, 2000 07:10 PM
Maverik, if you had to start your bulking cycle over again, whould you do it the same. Sus/deca in same doses. Thanks bro. IP: Logged |
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thermo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 181) |
posted August 15, 2000 07:15 PM
good deal ,im gonna be cuttin well not cuttin but tryin to shed that fat but im gonna stick with clen and eca to bridge, dont have enough gonads to fuck around with thyroid n t3 -to risky for me IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 737) |
posted August 15, 2000 08:03 PM
Yes hacker, I think I would do it the same. For my next cycle though, I will stick with sust only and maybe finish up with some primo. Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 897) |
posted August 15, 2000 08:23 PM
Cycle the calories bro, try it that way first, if you drop too much weight too fast, you know what is going on. From experience i would say that @2000 cals with lo - carbs you will be fine, besides you are gonna be hungry, trust me. You will also have to see how you feel, some bros said they felt tired on t3, me I had a ton of energy. Do not drop the protein, keep that constantly around 300 grams, if you want to fuck with anything fuck with the carbs. If you want email me I have a diet I can give you. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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LEGEND Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 302) |
posted August 15, 2000 08:36 PM
sounds like you had a good one mav, thats always good news, just one thing, i wouldn't drop the calories below 2000, as long as there clean cals i think you'll be fine, you probably want to sacrafice as little bit of muscle as possible, it's alot of hard work putting it on, so try to keep as much as you can. good luck bro..... ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 737) |
posted August 15, 2000 09:13 PM
Thanks Decaman. I will e-mail you soon. Legend, I know what you are saying about the muscle. I don't want to lose it but I have been at about 15% BF for the past two years and I am just plain and simply tired of the fat. If I lost a little muscle, I wouldn't be too mad as long as I lost alot of fat. Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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