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Tronco
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posted August 14, 2000 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tronco   Click Here to Email Tronco     Edit/Delete Message
Anybody have any thoughts on what, if any, sides might result from continued use/overuse of ephedrine products. I have heard the theories of asthma development, but I am more concerned with blood pressure changes, blood clotting problems and most specifically vision problems. I havent stopped ECA use for years, just cycles of heavier and lighter use.

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elite hot topic
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posted August 14, 2000 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elite hot topic   Click Here to Email elite hot topic     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 24539228
I dont know about anyone else but when i stop taking it i continue to sweat like a bitch, have been off for 3 months and still am.

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D007
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posted August 14, 2000 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D007   Click Here to Email D007     Edit/Delete Message
i have been using ephedrine pretty steady for 6, yes six years and at very, VERY HIGH dosages at times. nothing bad has happened YET but as you get older you start to think more about longevity; and I have been off for 3 months; and starting to think that continued use may not kill you but certainly doesnt make you look any better. "JUST USE IT WHEN YOU REALLY NEED IT" is my current take on ephedrine.

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vdevil
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posted August 15, 2000 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vdevil   Click Here to Email vdevil     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71552136
I have been using it for a while now too. This is a good post, lets see some more replies. I mainly use it just before i train though.

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ripped to shreads2
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posted August 15, 2000 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ripped to shreads2   Click Here to Email ripped to shreads2     Edit/Delete Message
man it mekes me stink in the gym what is up with that no mater how much deodorant i put on it dont work, iam a dirty fucker like a redneck trucker lol

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BigTruck
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posted August 15, 2000 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigTruck   Click Here to Email BigTruck     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, I hear ya ripped -- sometimes I can barely stand myself while on it...

I too use it as a pre-workout stimulant (not on a continual basis). I only take it four to five times per week (and occasionally if I need a pick me up), but this question has been on my mind as well. I'll bump it.

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foreverblast
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posted August 15, 2000 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for foreverblast   Click Here to Email foreverblast     Edit/Delete Message
Your body will adapt to the stimulatory effects of ephedrine over a long period of time. You will slowly feel less and less of a pick-up if you continuously use ephedrine year-round. When you get off of it eventually you'll also feel less capable to complete day-to-day tasks without having naps in between.

john

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mr perfect
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posted August 15, 2000 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mr perfect   Click Here to Email mr perfect     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 73681076
I have been using eca for close to 2 years straight and after a while u can't feel the effects as much and u need to take higher dosages But from now on I take a break of the ephedrine but I always take caffeine . Ephedrine is like any other drug and alot of people say that it's addicting mentally. and I agree with that because when I went off the ephedrine after being on it for 2 straight years I felt like complete shit physically and mentally for 2 weeks but I was back to normal again after 3 weeks and now I only use the ephedrine in cycles and i think that's the best thing to do..

[This message has been edited by mr perfect (edited August 15, 2000).]

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shmucko
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posted August 15, 2000 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shmucko   Click Here to Email shmucko     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know if it's my imagine or coincidence but my shoulder tendons have not been the same since a two month Xenadrine diet phase.

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RAGEWHATRAGE
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posted August 15, 2000 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RAGEWHATRAGE   Click Here to Email RAGEWHATRAGE     Edit/Delete Message
iiiiiiiiiiii bbbbeeeeennn onnnnn eephe epphhhee epphhhedddrinee fffffffffooooorrr nnn nnnn nneearrlly fa fa fa fa fiveeeee ya ya yyyyyears. Nononononononono ssssssidess exceppppppt sasa ssa sa sommmm jitttt jitttt jittterssss.

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blkLotus
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posted August 15, 2000 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blkLotus   Click Here to Email blkLotus     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 11023347
After about 2 years on ... im having a really tought time pulling the plug on it. i feel like total shit and tired as hell without it. I know it can not be a good thing downing 8 rip fuel tabs twice a day... thats how many it takes to pick me up now!


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bstrong
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posted August 15, 2000 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bstrong   Click Here to Email bstrong     Edit/Delete Message
sweating thing is a fucker , i'm of for 4 monthes nowand something is real fucked up cause i'm sweating like an animal , the problem is that i sweat ALL THE TIME not only in the gym.

i was using it with clen and at first liked the resolts i useds to luse 2-3 liters of swat during workout, but it gave me this crasy heart bittes so i gave it up.

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hayesjones
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posted August 15, 2000 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hayesjones   Click Here to Email hayesjones     Edit/Delete Message
Im with you D007. I have been taking it too at high dosages for about 8yrs. Not somthing Im to fucking proud of. Its like I just dont feel motivated as much without it.

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Decaman
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posted August 15, 2000 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Decaman   Click Here to Email Decaman     Edit/Delete Message
Shit, i thought I was pushing it being on for 4 months now, some of you guys are going on 2 years, that is a long time!

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X-Man
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posted August 15, 2000 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for X-Man   Click Here to Email X-Man     Edit/Delete Message
I developed an irregular heart beat after a years use

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OMEGALOS
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posted August 16, 2000 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for OMEGALOS   Click Here to Email OMEGALOS     Edit/Delete Message
Ive used it as a diet aid several times and it works by giving you more energy to push harder and longer, and helps decrease you appetite also. However, as others said above, when you get off you feel run down and depressed.
So I think its best used as a stimulant before tough workouts. I for instance use it before my bench and squat days. 2 metabolifts.

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Your_Moms_Kneepads
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posted August 16, 2000 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Your_Moms_Kneepads   Click Here to Email Your_Moms_Kneepads     Edit/Delete Message
you guys better check your Blood Pressure. Also consider having thyroid tests done-long term use/abuse of ephedrine can supress your thryroid levels/lab values,i.e. TSH

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Tronco
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posted August 16, 2000 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tronco   Click Here to Email Tronco     Edit/Delete Message
Hey kneepads thanks for the info on the potential for thyroid problems, just one more thing on the list I have to get checked by a doc. Its funny to me that Decaman is conecerned over 4 months of use...try 4 years of overuse then we'll talk. Hmm i really gotta quit this shit, but I have gotten some what dependent on it for increasing the intensity of my lifts, although at this point is mostly psychological b/c on most days I only take a slightly insane dose...for me to get the effects I did years ago [heart kicking out of my chest] I'd have to take so much I wouldnt sleeo for days. Does anyone else sense that the herbal form tends to hang out in your system longer than the sythetic? Maybe its time to move onto clen and T3.

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aahthit
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posted August 16, 2000 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aahthit   Click Here to Email aahthit     Edit/Delete Message
I abused the shit out of ephedrine and caffeine for abour 3 years and now all it does for me after one day of use is make me tired and unable to hold a coherent thought. It messed up my mind bad. I won't touch a caffeine pill or an ephedrine tab now. I like coffee still, but it doesn't do have the mind crippling affect on me that caffeine pills have. I have also read in a few places that ephedrine can have a negative affect on test production. No big deal if you're on cycle, but if you're in between cycles, I would think that it can be an issue, especially if you used a heavy test cycle. Bchemist? Any thoughts on this one?

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DREXX
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posted August 16, 2000 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DREXX   Click Here to Email DREXX     Edit/Delete Message
I have been using it for about 5 years as a pre-workout stimulant.

I haven't noticed anything too bad but shrunken manhood and fast and irregular heartbeat while on Ephedrine.

I think I will start cycling it since I have used it almost every workout for like 5 years.

I plan on taking a full month of all supplements and drugs before my next cycle. I will see how it goes. I wont even drink caffeine...

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CLEMDOG
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posted August 16, 2000 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CLEMDOG   Click Here to Email CLEMDOG     Edit/Delete Message
I only use it as a preworkout stimulant. I usually get pretty intense workouts when I take the stuff. I still cycle it even when using only for a preworkout supp cause I can feel myself downregulating the stuff pretty quickly. I can remember my first time ever taking a thermogenic preworkout. Holy shit, virgin runs are always the best.

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