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 Cant Grow with 1 gram of test ???
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skg Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 106) |
posted August 14, 2000 01:31 PM
  
WTF? No gains so far. Not even 1 lb??? The gear is 100% legit. Protein at 250-350gr. I am at the beginning of the fifth week. week1 500mg test enanth 600mg primobolan 30mg dianabol week2 500mg test 600mg primobolan week3 500mg test 600mg primobolan week4 1000mg test 600mg primobolan
What is happening I didnt gain even 1 pound??? IP: Logged |
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THE APE Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 505) |
posted August 14, 2000 01:35 PM
Bro the comment about that being 100% legit, I think you better reconsider.There is no way in hell after this long that you would not have registered SOME gains if that was legit product.You better re-check your source. IP: Logged |
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skg Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 106) |
posted August 14, 2000 01:41 PM
Thanks APE but I live in Greece and I take the gear directly from the pharmacy. So it is 100% legit. The dball is pink thi. Forgot to mension that both I and others noticed that I got bigger. But not weight gains. IP: Logged |
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THE APE Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 505) |
posted August 14, 2000 01:49 PM
Give some details on exactly what you are using:description,lot no.,etc..Believe it or not bro,there are some pharmacies that sell fakes from time to time. IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 737) |
posted August 14, 2000 01:53 PM
What about your diet? IP: Logged |
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Krusher Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 493) |
posted August 14, 2000 01:56 PM
You say you are bigger? On my last cycle my scale weight went down by 5lbs while adding about 8-10lbs of muscle. Some people will burn off fat quicker while on gear than normally and that could be why no weight gain is showing up on the scale. Have you measured your arm? I'd go by that and your bench before the scale. IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 737) |
posted August 14, 2000 02:00 PM
I agree with what Krusher said as I was thinking the same thing. That is why I asked about your diet. You are probably losing fat and gaining muscle. Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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jdismukes Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 462) |
posted August 14, 2000 02:02 PM
Could it be that you are using too much estrogen blockers, stop using the blockers and I bet you will blow up, if your gear is real. IP: Logged |
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Amp Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 111) |
posted August 14, 2000 02:03 PM
If you are pushing heavier weights each workout then the size will come. You have to challenge your body each workout by pushing harder than the last, whether it is with heavier weight, more reps with the same weight, and extra forced rep. You need something or your body has no reason to adapt and grow. Dbol should have put pounds of water on regardless of working out at all. IP: Logged |
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rippazoid Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 253) |
posted August 14, 2000 02:03 PM
you mentioned your protein intake but what about complex carbs and overall total calories. you must eat to grow my friend. IP: Logged |
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skg Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 106) |
posted August 14, 2000 02:09 PM
The test is testoviron depot by schering. Primo is Primobolan depot by schering. It seems impossible to me that the staff bought by me, directly from the pharmacy to be fake. I eat clean but not extreme quantities. Chicken breasts, soy protein, together with some pasta or rice. I notice some difference but I would expect some weight increase. This is my second cycle the first was a 7 week deca and I got 12lbs. After waiting only 5weeks I started this cycle. Thanks for the replies, I just cant figure out what is happening. IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 737) |
posted August 14, 2000 02:21 PM
Try upping your calories and see if that helps. Just take it day by day and if you are not gaining weight, keep adjusting your calories until you do. Just watch the BF%. Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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animal B Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1179) |
posted August 14, 2000 02:41 PM
you guys are so hung up on scale weight..which usually is water any way...it is important to listen to people..they say you look better bigger...thats good..how do you look in the mirror....suggestion...stop looking at the scale..take a before cycle photo and after photo...look at the scale after the cycle..not everyday IP: Logged |
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Pup'nIrn Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 317) |
posted August 14, 2000 02:51 PM
its simple guys....even if he was losing fat and gaining muscle he would be able to see a considerable difference by week 2 much less week 5!!! Not even a pound gained with any form of test and d-bol is not legit gear! Even on the best diet you will retain fluids and strength will increase making it very noticable. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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skg Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 106) |
posted August 14, 2000 02:56 PM
I agree. But the stuff is 100% legit! IP: Logged |
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jdismukes Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 462) |
posted August 14, 2000 03:02 PM
It is very simple, quit taking the proscar, proviron, and nolvadex. The clomid won't hurt you, but the other shit will keep you from making gains. Why do you need all that shit anyhow, are you prone to getting gyno. Way too much estrogen blockers. IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 737) |
posted August 14, 2000 04:21 PM
That is an awful lot of antiestrogens, bro. Cut back on those and stick with the clomid. Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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Jeff_rys Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 665) |
posted August 14, 2000 04:36 PM
Even if you didn't take any protein, any carbs, with that amount of roids you should gain something. And if you lost fat and gained muscle that has to be seen around your waist. You took 600 mgr Primo a week. Primo doesn't need any protein to work (that doesn't mean that you cannot gain more while uing lots of protein). Don't forget Primo kicks in on week 5-6. Test should come sooner, but i don't know, never used it. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short IP: Logged |
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Yoda Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 377) |
posted August 14, 2000 05:31 PM
I'm with Krusher, the best way to monitor progress is through the use of body fat measurements, its very possible that you gained muscle and lost fat, which happened recently to me. If not for the pre cycle BF tests I would have been very disappointed with the scale change, but knowing what I did helped me to see that there was actually a 20lb muscle gain with a 10lb fat loss. Also, its possible your over training, whats your training routine look like??? IP: Logged |
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1AbBIG Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 333) |
posted August 14, 2000 05:54 PM
i would agree, you should have noticed some weight gains. especially from the d-bol. you should have put on atleast 5-10 lbs water by now. i might double check your dbol, it might me fake. the test , takes time to kick in so it should be starting rigt now. go over your diet and revaluate your workouts, and eating habits. something your doing is not correct if your gear is 100% legit. IP: Logged |
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Atownwreker Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 10) |
posted August 14, 2000 07:18 PM
how is your training?Is your Intensity up?how long are your workouts?Do you have a partner?sometimes what you put into it you get right back! stay alive and have fun... IP: Logged |
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chestyII Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 888) |
posted August 14, 2000 07:51 PM
I have been taking 1250mg sus/week, plus dbol and deca. I noticed weekly weight gains even when calories sucked ass. I would suspect that your gear is fake or your body just doesn't respond to gear all that well. Are you doing cardio? I also have been taking Nolvadex/proviron eod and was taking clomid eod as well for half the cycle. Stopped clomid to save it for end. Primo works great. Gf was on 100mg/week and 100mg deca/week and never lost one ounce of weight, but strength went up, fat went way down, basically her hips disappeared. At least 90% of them. So, maybe you are gaining some muscle and losing fat. You should always keep a record of your starting measurements for comparison as the cycle goes on. chesty ------------------ IP: Logged |
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quadster Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 67) |
posted August 15, 2000 06:11 AM
its the proviron get rid of it it compets for receptor sites and blocks all the other gear ask paul at www.biohazard849.com IP: Logged |
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Steelheart Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 682) |
posted August 15, 2000 07:27 AM
Testing, sorry ------------------ [This message has been edited by Steelheart (edited August 15, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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susthead Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 229) |
posted August 15, 2000 07:59 AM
its the proviron it clogs the androgen receptors up its shit dont use it proviron is a androgen like tamoxifen is an antiestrogen that clogs receptors proviron does the same but with androgen receptors not good when you on test or any gear leave it alone only take clomid forget nova and proscar . if i was you i would come off give yourself 8 weeks to clean out start again doing 400mg primo and 1000mg test every 5 days dont taper up or down and take 1 clomid a day. IP: Logged |
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Nero Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 14) |
posted August 15, 2000 08:28 AM
I am on 500mg Sus per week. I dont eat anywhere near enough like the vets say, 2500-3000 cals/day at the most. My bodyweight has increased by about 2-3 lb in 5 weeks ( 205lb). BUT, I am twice as strong, look leaner, veins showing that I never knew I had, my BF has gone down about 8%, can fuck all night, people are commenting on how I look etc. I just go with the flow! IP: Logged |
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skg Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 106) |
posted August 15, 2000 10:35 AM
Does anyone else agree with susthead to stop the cycle in order to clean the receptors? IP: Logged |
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Ffactor Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 84) |
posted August 15, 2000 12:28 PM
susthead might have a point. if you have not seen any gains so far with those dosages then i doubt if you are going to see any by continuing this cycle. save your gear, take 8 weeks off, and then restart without all the anti-estrogens. take clomid eod during cycle. IP: Logged |
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blkLotus Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 230) |
posted August 15, 2000 12:47 PM
remeber the guy... Young1... he posted that he didnt gain anything from test... all the sides with no gains. Sucks but maybe thats the deal. peace IP: Logged |
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BEASTIOS Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 54) |
posted August 15, 2000 03:07 PM
bump! IP: Logged |
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BEASTIOS Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 54) |
posted August 15, 2000 03:08 PM
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CraZyWhiTe Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 51) |
posted August 15, 2000 03:28 PM
.. I REPERAT GO BY THE TAPE MESSURE NOT THE SCALE..........!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------ -Big Pappa Pump IP: Logged |
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Ffactor Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 84) |
posted August 15, 2000 04:50 PM
By the way my first cycle was sos and d-bol and I did not gain a single pound and after coming off the cycle I crashed hard. My second cycle was sos and deca and I exploded and have kept all my gains. Seems like my body responds better to anabolics over androgenics. My next cycle will be deca and primo with no androgens. IP: Logged |
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jersey boy Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 460) |
posted August 16, 2000 12:20 AM
I wouldn't worry so much about the weight gain. I have very similiar problems with my latest cycles. I KNOW my shit is legit, at any rate I am taking too much for irt all to fake. I too am not gaining weight, but changing my body's composition. Go with the mirror and your friend's imput before relying on what the scale says. get big or get out IP: Logged |
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Thunder Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 136) |
posted August 16, 2000 01:40 AM
I remeber scheiring was in trouble for selling gear from the back door and they where put on haulght. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Lqdmscle Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 263) |
posted August 16, 2000 01:56 AM
I have some suggestion, but I gave my word to someone that I would not talk about the subject so I am embarrassed to say. Sorry, not trying to be a dick, but it is not uncommon for people to not respond to high test dosage. You should clean out your system and restores your receptors, before you re-start. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Vince Voyuer Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 14) |
posted August 16, 2000 02:50 AM
Whatever happened to young1? I havent seen him in monthes. IP: Logged |
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