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animal B Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1179) |
posted August 13, 2000 03:27 PM
  
If i have a an empty 50ml bottle and I put 20ml of sos 250mg/ml and 30ml of deca 200mg/ml and mix them in the bottle ...after mixed..what would 1ml contain???? IP: Logged |
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Bchemist Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 239) |
posted August 13, 2000 03:37 PM
You would have a total of 220mg/ml solution. Each ml contains 100mg sust and 120 mg deca. So there is a practical use for general chemistry! IP: Logged |
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Dexter Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 797) |
posted August 13, 2000 03:41 PM
animal B, maybe you should submit that question to Educational Testing Service for inclusion in future SATs or GREs.  Dexter ------------------ IP: Logged |
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matr1x Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 292) |
posted August 13, 2000 03:42 PM
That would be 220mg/ml IP: Logged |
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animal B Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1179) |
posted August 13, 2000 03:43 PM
this sounds good to me so if we did 2ml(200ml sos and 240ml deca) 3 shots per week or 6mls we would have 600ml sos 720ml deca for a bit more then 8 weeks, with 6 dball per day would be a great stack...yes or no? IP: Logged |
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hardKore Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 29) |
posted August 13, 2000 03:44 PM
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE DOIN THIS RIGHT, SEND ALL THE STUFF TO ME FOR EVALUATION HEHE. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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animal B Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1179) |
posted August 13, 2000 03:45 PM
matrix,,complete the answer..how much sos and how much deca in 1ml??bchemist is right...this question will be included on the next S.A.T. IP: Logged |
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animal B Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1179) |
posted August 13, 2000 03:47 PM
now if you want to teach high school chemistry to varsity football players...use this method and watch how fast they learn IP: Logged |
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Bchemist Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 239) |
posted August 13, 2000 03:48 PM
LOL! That's the funniest shit I've heard all day!!! IP: Logged |
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cachapa Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 108) |
posted August 13, 2000 03:51 PM
20ml * 250mg/ml = 5,000mg 30ml * 200mg/ml = 6,000mg ------ ---------- 50ml 11,000mg 11,000mg / 50ml = 220mg/ml ------------------ IP: Logged |
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animal B Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1179) |
posted August 13, 2000 03:55 PM
thats the easy part...220mg/ml...now how much is sos and how much is deca IP: Logged |
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Krusher Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 494) |
posted August 13, 2000 03:59 PM
Many people feel that there should be twice as much test than deca when stacking so I will say that this won't make a great stack..to bad ref-b needs to be injected/drank more often than the other 2 then that would be a real nice stack in a bottle. IP: Logged |
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Still Growing Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 53) |
posted August 13, 2000 03:59 PM
Great idea! That's really nice to know if your gonna pour all your shit in one bottle so you have half a liter of juice mixed and ready to use, instead of having all those ampules all around. Practical!! IP: Logged |
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matr1x Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 292) |
posted August 13, 2000 04:03 PM
Hey animal you could market this, you could call it Decasos220. [This message has been edited by matr1x (edited August 13, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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animal B Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1179) |
posted August 13, 2000 04:15 PM
and matrix...what price would we be looking at for a 2ml preload??how about $25-28 a 2ml pre load..would it sell???hypotheticlly IP: Logged |
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THE APE Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 510) |
posted August 13, 2000 04:18 PM
Hell yeah,I'd be all over it!haha IP: Logged |
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matr1x Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 292) |
posted August 13, 2000 04:51 PM
Lets look at it this way if the price of Deca200mg/ml was say $10/ml and sus250 was the same at $10 an amp, then 6000mg of deca would cost $300 and 5000mg of sus250 wouldbe would be $200 so add them together for the 50ml bottle and that would be $500 so that would work out at $10/ml (I think) For 2ml that would be $20 but if its in 2ml preloaded syringes I would add $5 for each commodity to make it $25. This is based on the original prices of the items but that is a stret price and if were to do this properly you're probably looking at buying in at �2 an amp for sus250 & the Deca, so for 2ml of sus250&Deca you would be paying $4 and selling the finished product at $25, this would be over a 600% mark up for each commodity. Taking expenses and production cost into account, there would stil be an awesome profit. As for "would it sell" how many people do you know that mix their sus250&deca in the same syringe for a bit less stinging and less injections?, I know I do. IP: Logged |
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matr1x Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 292) |
posted August 13, 2000 04:56 PM
In fact the more I think about it, the more I think it's a fucking great idea, If only I had the initial outlay..... IP: Logged |
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The Ranger Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1491) |
posted August 13, 2000 05:34 PM
Actually, And Animal B knows this...This method has been around for years...it's called " Shotgun Stacking " Sorta faded into the shadows over the years though...Peace!!! And on the question...I never really cared....Just jack 3cc's every 3 to 5 days until your as big as need, or 10 weeks...which ever comes first....heh heh heh...!! Cause, yup...It's all good...!!! ------------------ Ranger IP: Logged |
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KidRock Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 112) |
posted August 13, 2000 06:09 PM
Wow....pharmaceuticals 101! Learn somwthing new everyday. IP: Logged |
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the captain Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 90) |
posted August 13, 2000 06:15 PM
it's too early for this shit--i'm just a dumb jock IP: Logged |
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adawg78 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 117) |
posted August 13, 2000 06:39 PM
animal... 1 mL of that stack would have 100 mg sos and 120 mg deca
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Ffactor Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 84) |
posted August 13, 2000 06:46 PM
220 mg/ml. 40% of this is sos and 60% deca. 88 mg sos. 132 mg deca. Total 220 mg in 1 ml. IP: Logged |
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NEWMAXX Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 327) |
posted August 13, 2000 06:46 PM
I am with Ranger on this one... ------------------ IP: Logged |
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delts Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 346) |
posted August 13, 2000 06:51 PM
Ranger........you are too cool bro! delts ------------------ IP: Logged |
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jarabbit Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 121) |
posted August 13, 2000 07:01 PM
Hey guys you have 2 answers here. The one below is from Bchemist and then the one posted above is from ffactor. Ffactor says 88mg sust 132 mg deca and uses %'s to get his answer. This answer looks right to me not Bchemists. You would have a total of 220mg/ml solution. Each ml contains 100mg sust and 120 mg deca. So there is a practical use for general chemistry! IP: Logged |
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matr1x Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 292) |
posted August 13, 2000 07:13 PM
I just realised if you had a 50ml bottle of at 5000mg sus250 and 6000mg deca you would not know what dosages of each you would be getting it could be anything like 10mg of deca & 210mg of sus250 you would need to mix the two in their natural states and Then suspend them in oil. IP: Logged |
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Bchemist Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 239) |
posted August 13, 2000 07:48 PM
Ffactor better re-check his calculations. 5/11 does not give 40%...try ~45%. 6/11 gives ~55%. I used to tutor this shit... Matr1x, I disagree with that idea. Even if the weights of the oils differ, it's not enough to cause significant seperation. They will disperse into that ratio either way. If you want to be exact about it, all you have to do is swirl the vial for a few seconds to mix. [This message has been edited by Bchemist (edited August 13, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Diver Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 336) |
posted August 13, 2000 07:49 PM
matr1x: based on your theory then wouldnt it be true you also wouldnt know how much of each test ester you are injecting from the sust? IP: Logged |
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jarabbit Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 121) |
posted August 13, 2000 07:53 PM
ahhh I see 5 of 11 yes 5/11th's I was thinking 20 and 30 is a total of 50 double the 50 and double everything else and you get 100% and 40% and 50% then take those percents of 220mg and you get ffactor's answer. IP: Logged |
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bbman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 48) |
posted August 13, 2000 07:59 PM
I say in 1 ml, you would have a fruit cocktail. Or a SUDA! IP: Logged |
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matr1x Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 292) |
posted August 13, 2000 08:17 PM
No diver because the esters are not individually suspended in oil then suspended in oil again as a "cocktail" are they? IP: Logged |
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Pharm Animal Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 88) |
posted August 13, 2000 10:51 PM
this is getting way too complicated...i love it! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Atownwreker Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 10) |
posted August 14, 2000 02:02 AM
220mg/1ml IP: Logged |
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animal B Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1179) |
posted August 14, 2000 03:03 PM
ranger you are right...shotgunning has been around and dried up..it is still a good method for the people who dont want to deal with multi injections...I think I will pass the ides to a few vet companies I know and see what they say..out of curiosisty of course..bchemist has the correct answer...my first answers were 88 and 132 as well..now..if you had a 50cc bottle,,what would you like to see mixed in it?? IP: Logged |
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Ice Man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 658) |
posted August 14, 2000 03:07 PM
Nice thread AnimalB! Just please don't start with the train A leaves Portland, etc...LOL IP: Logged |
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ajc1977 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 997) |
posted August 14, 2000 07:49 PM
Animal...You scare me bro. j/k Oh and about the football players you should write a test like that and patent it. IP: Logged |
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media Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 135) |
posted August 15, 2000 08:00 AM
Yap bros, that is almost the same thing we are doing here in good ol' Yugoslavia for years, to cut the price, and lessen the injections. And about the prices, thank God we pay so much less than you. But than again, we got so much less money than you. So we are even, I'd say. IP: Logged |
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ripped to shreads2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 276) |
posted August 15, 2000 08:32 AM
how do you know if all the esters got mixed right, in other words how do you know if each shoot is going to contain the same amount as the next, i usto do the shot gun method with a 100 cc botle of ganabol when it got down to about 50 ccs i add sust and deca my friends would think it was a neanderthal method it worked for me though IP: Logged |
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xtreemrush Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 380) |
posted August 15, 2000 08:51 AM
i am wondering the same thing about correct proportions...lets say it was 50 ml bottle of nothing but Sus...how are you sure you are still getting all the esters in the correct proportion? IP: Logged |
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Ffactor Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 84) |
posted August 15, 2000 12:44 PM
50 ml bottle of which 20ml is sos and 30 ml is deca. 20 ml sos. (20/50)*100=40% 30 ml deca. (30/50)*100=60% There is a total of 220 mg/ml. mg/ml of sos = 220*.40 = 88 I hope this clears things up. IP: Logged |
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animal B Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1179) |
posted August 15, 2000 04:39 PM
that was my first answer... IP: Logged |
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animal B Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1179) |
posted August 15, 2000 04:39 PM
that was my first answer... IP: Logged |
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Ffactor Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 84) |
posted August 15, 2000 04:46 PM
ok animal.....why don't you trust your first answer? Peace. IP: Logged |
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GymRatSD Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 495) |
posted August 15, 2000 05:23 PM
BChemist had the answer correct in his first post on this thread. Ffactor, you cannot calculate it out the way you did. It would only work if the concentration of the two solutions were the same before mixing. In this case, they are not. Therefore, BChemist is correct. 250 mg Sus x 20 ml = 5000 mg Sus 5000 mg/50 ml = 100 mg Sus Total of the two is 220 mg. For those concerned about the ester, there is no need to panic. In AS terms, oil is oil is oil. If the deca were in, say, sunflower oil and the Sus was in peanut, the two oils would mix completely and thoroughly, and the drugs would be equally mixed between the two oils. There would be no separation. The esters of the Sus would not begin separation because it is in a different oil. The ester removal from the testosterone is a biological process. IP: Logged |
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GymRatSD Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 495) |
posted August 15, 2000 06:58 PM
BUMP! IP: Logged |
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Lthrnk Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 82) |
posted August 15, 2000 07:07 PM
my math works out to be the same as Ffactor but I'm no biochemist so what the hell but I like the shotgun stack so what the hell I'm going to give it a thumbs up hell I may even give it a shot lol ------------------ IP: Logged |
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GymRatSD Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 495) |
posted August 15, 2000 07:20 PM
If your results are agreeing with Ffactor, then you are using the same logic as Ffactor, and that logic is wrong. The math is black and white. IP: Logged |
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The Ranger Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1491) |
posted August 15, 2000 08:46 PM
To further this a little...why did Bro's start shotguning stacks....of course to cut down on the injections....but more importantly.....? Answer______________________________________? ------------------ Ranger IP: Logged |
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animal B Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1179) |
posted August 15, 2000 11:04 PM
ranger: it was less things to carry around...actually if I recall there was a theory if mixed you would get synergistic or amplified affects.. IP: Logged |
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The Ranger Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1491) |
posted August 16, 2000 03:20 AM
your on the ball Animal.....plus, the thoughts were with all the fakes floating around....mix three together, and hell....one of them has got to be legit.....heh heh heh.....good thread Bro, one of the better ones in awhile!!! ------------------ Ranger IP: Logged |
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Deltzilla Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 51) |
posted August 16, 2000 10:44 AM
Make sure you shake/stir your Decanon before you use it, just to make sure the solution is constistent. IP: Logged |
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tries Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 16) |
posted August 16, 2000 11:01 AM
YOULL HAVE A NICE JUG OF JUICE!!!! IP: Logged |
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gearface Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 524) |
posted August 16, 2000 11:54 AM
Dude thanx for posting this, I have always wondered about it. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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