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MadKid
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posted August 13, 2000 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MadKid   Click Here to Email MadKid     Edit/Delete Message
How do you know if your gyno prone??I have little hard lumps under my nipples, that I got during early puberty, does this mean anything???

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THE APE
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posted August 13, 2000 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THE APE     Edit/Delete Message
Yes,if you have any type of protrusion/lumps,I would say it would be a very wise idea to use nolvadex all the way through on any gear that aromatizes.Better safe than sorry.

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JUICESEEKER
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posted August 13, 2000 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JUICESEEKER   Click Here to Email JUICESEEKER     Edit/Delete Message
I BELIEVE OVERWEIGHT PEOPLE ARE MORE PRONE TO GYNO.

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MadKid
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posted August 13, 2000 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MadKid   Click Here to Email MadKid     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, this is what ive come to belive also
but I was a chubby kid, not know but then
I have thirty pills of tamoxifen ready for my
cycle

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JUICESEEKER
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posted August 13, 2000 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JUICESEEKER   Click Here to Email JUICESEEKER     Edit/Delete Message
YOU MAY BE GYNO PRONE.........

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THE APE
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posted August 13, 2000 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THE APE     Edit/Delete Message
Get a lot more than that.You are going to most likely need it throughout your entire cycle and then for awhile after,while your body is in a state of estrogen rebound.Also,make sure you have clomid on hand too to keep your natural test levels in check.

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MadKid
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posted August 13, 2000 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MadKid   Click Here to Email MadKid     Edit/Delete Message
So should i wait to start feeling the sides
or should I just take the nolva though out
the cycle?

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cunroe
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posted August 13, 2000 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cunroe   Click Here to Email cunroe     Edit/Delete Message
I have not done follow-up research on this yet, but...for whatever it is worth. I had a physician respond with the following after reviewing a recent blood test. He told me I would be more prone to gyno as well and I asked why. His response:

quote:
"...have nolvadex AND proviron on hand. I would take the proviron regardless [snip]. You will have a higher chance of being susceptible to gyno because your test:est ratio is lower than normal (ie closer together). So, if your natural test levels drop, est will increase and you are already at the high end. Just take the clomid as you say, and if you notice a tingling in your breasts, start he nolvadex. this will stop it immediately..."

Obviously this is specific to my situation but it may help answer your question.

Later,

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".45acp"


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THE APE
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posted August 13, 2000 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THE APE     Edit/Delete Message
Madkid if you already have the lumps there,then that means that the onset of gyno is already present for you.Any aromitizable gear that you use is going to be highly likely to aggrevate an already pre-existing problem.My advice in your particular case would be to start the nolva at the beginning of your cycle,carry it all the way through,and then keep on taking it afterwards until you have returned your hormonal axis back to normal.I know this may sound like overkill,but why wait to see pre-existing lumps grow even LARGER before you start nolvadex therapy.Be safe rather than sorry my friend.Hope this helps.

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MadKid
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posted August 13, 2000 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MadKid   Click Here to Email MadKid     Edit/Delete Message
I would agree with that, so I guess im ordering more, but my cycle includes deca so what about the proest, what doseages should I
take thoughout the cycle??

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THE APE
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posted August 13, 2000 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THE APE     Edit/Delete Message
The nolva will not help with the deca,as its aromitization is not through estrogenic pathways.But I would not even worry about the deca.Very few people ever have any problems with it at all.For the other gear,20 mgs daily of nolvadex should be sufficient to keep gyno in check.

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