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From:The Woodlands, TX, USA
Registered: Jun 2000

posted August 13, 2000 12:16 PM               

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Well, the insanity's over! My show was last night, and I took 2ND place in the teenage division and the novice lightweight-under 154 classes. I went in at 150 pounds, 3% bodyfat, and I'm 19. It was a natural show (if you've read my other posts you know my situtation!), so I was very content with my shape/conditioning. It's mass time now, though. Next summer, I want to hit the NPC, no more local contests, no more teen divisions--I WANT TO GET ON STAGE FOR THE NPC!! Now, I'm not gonna start a cycle right now. I want to wait about 3-4 months, see how the first semester back at school goes, see if I can put on a few pounds of muscle, then possibly hit the juice after X-mas. Just a few quick q's, and don't just give me some "go do more research" posts, PLEASE! I really would appreciate some advice.

1) Are there any pro-hormones that are worth there money, like Stenadiol, that would be good to use before hitting the hard stuff?
2) Who thinks this Methoxyisoflavone is as good as it's hype?
3) What do you guys think would be better for a first timer to stack with test (probably sust, maybe aratest)--eq or deca?

I should have the pictures from my show scanned in a week or so for y'all to see, and then I'll probably ask for some insight into my physique, too. THANKS TO ALL Y'ALL WHO ADVISED ME FOR THE LAST 5-6 WEEKS OR SO, SINCERELY!! THIS BOARD IS GREAT, KEEP IT UP!

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posted August 13, 2000 01:01 PM               

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Congrats bro!

Later,

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From:The Woodlands, TX, USA
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posted August 13, 2000 03:30 PM               

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YEAH, I'M BUMPING MY OWN POST...BUT I NEED SOME INPUT!

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Registered: Jul 2000

posted August 13, 2000 03:36 PM            

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Creatine is about the only product I could give you as a recommendation and still keep a clear concience.Protein powders are obviously a sound investment but I would say that being a competitor you obviously know that.Congrats on your placings,you did a great job bro.

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posted August 13, 2000 09:43 PM               

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as far as supplements creatine, and the only pro-hormone that I feel is worth trying is that one from T-mag, although there hasn't been much feedback on it yet. personally I would stay away from the prohormones, they convert mostly to estrogen, and as a result I got mild gyno from them years back. If u just came off from a show, NOW is the time to hit it hard whether it be natural or with gear. Your body is so depleated after a contest the weeks after is the time to explode with size.

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From:The Woodlands, TX, USA
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posted August 13, 2000 09:43 PM               

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BUUUUUMP, AAAAAAGAIN...$

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posted August 13, 2000 10:11 PM               

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Was your show at the Woodlands?

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From:The Woodlands, TX, USA
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posted August 14, 2000 08:12 AM               

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Yeah, The All-Natural Physique and Power Conference (ANPPC) 2000 Texas Open Bodybuilding Championships! It was a very well-organized and fun show, regardless of the 2 2nd place trophies now sitting in my room.

Were you there??

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posted August 14, 2000 09:39 AM               

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1) No, they all pretty much suck for putting on muscle. They ARE good for increased aggression. They have all the sides without many of the benefits.

2) I haven't had any first-hand experience, but I find the marketing pretty gimmicky. And it's expensive... I wouldnt spend my money on it. Creatine, Glutamine, Protein and a multi are the only natural supps (for size) that I think work.

3) My opinion -- a deca/winny, deca/dbol or primo/dbol cycle (all w/ clomid). However, if you are a teen, I think you are too young.

Congrats on your trophies!

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posted August 15, 2000 06:23 PM               

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No I wasn't there....do you workout at Texas Gym??

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posted August 15, 2000 06:26 PM               

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By the way, I know the guy who took first....he has the best abs i've ever seen, a genetic freak if you ask me....what did you think about him? How do you compare? I also know the guy who took third.....

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From:The Woodlands, TX, USA
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posted August 17, 2000 08:55 AM               

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B---U---M---P...$!

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posted August 17, 2000 04:02 PM               

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...BillyBadAss...I don't work out at Texas Gym, actually, for the summer I've been working out at the YMCA where I work (free membership, but sh*tty!) and during the school year (Texas A&M, GIG 'EM), I lift at a Gold's Gym where I work, too. The guy that won the overall, Paris, was a friggin' monster, but in clothes he looked normal--I like that. I didn't stay to see who won the overall novice division 'cause I was ticked about getting 2nd place by 1 F*CKIN' POINT in the lightweight (there was a 3-way tie going into the night show between me and 2 others!)...but now I'm content, knowing I went in better than I've ever gone in to a show before! Well, adios!

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From:The Woodlands, TX, USA
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posted August 17, 2000 04:08 PM               

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...BillyBadAss...I don't work out at Texas Gym, actually, for the summer I've been working out at the YMCA where I work (free membership, but sh*tty!) and during the school year (Texas A&M, GIG 'EM), I lift at a Gold's Gym where I work, too. The guy that won the overall, Paris, was a friggin' monster, but in clothes he looked normal--I like that. I didn't stay to see who won the overall novice division 'cause I was ticked about getting 2nd place by 1 F*CKIN' POINT in the lightweight (there was a 3-way tie going into the night show between me and 2 others!)...but now I'm content, knowing I went in better than I've ever gone in to a show before! Well, adios!

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