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 Age doesn't mean shit when it comes to gear; unless your 12
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BillyBadAss Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 157) |
posted August 12, 2000 06:50 PM
  
Guys, i hate it when i see someone say you're too young quit your cycle right now. That's the shittiest advice you could give someone. Besides what if i'm eighteen and i've hit my genetic potential? unlikely, but what about this. joe blow just started lifting weights and he's 25, does that mean he can juice? When soemone asks for help don't tell them to quit juicing, help them with their problem. And do you guys really think that once someone has started their cycle that they are going to quit because one of you guys thinks that they are too young? Okay, sure, you should wait untill you've gotten as big as you can naturally, but some of us don't want to wait that long. And suppose you were on a cycle like 1000mg test/wk. Do you actually think it would be anyone's benefit to just quit right there? Maybe if you like your test levels crashing harder than Sonny Bono. We're all brothers, don't criticize, just help. IP: Logged |
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ChefRski Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 209) |
posted August 12, 2000 07:09 PM
Hey Brother I agree with alot that you say but I would guess that 80% of the young kids that get on this site just started lifting or have never seriously lifted before. They should then start with some over the counter GNC products to get a good basis of nutrition for there bodies. If you take AS and don't know how to lift or just work out 2 times a week your gonna see nothing but an empty wallet. Not a flame just my thoughts. Kids under 18 should worry about teen pregnancy and N'sync and shit not gear. Take Care Chef ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 690) |
posted August 12, 2000 07:10 PM
Yes but too many people start juicing way too early. If everyone just said OK then we would not be doing the right thing. The right thing to do is to warn youngsters that they shouldn't juice too early because it can cause problems at such a young age. Besides you have already got so much test in your body at 18 that it is a waste too suppress it by doing roids. It is almost like you are on free gear at that age so why waste it by suppressing it? Not to mention the fact that alot of teens aren't inelligent or mature enough to juice. Look at LUVS2JUICE for example. This guy has no clue what he is doing, yet we all still try to help, even though we don't agree. I agree, if someone is going to do it then nothing will stop them but we still must try to do the right thing. If we didn't let others know it can be dangerous then 12 year olds would be getting on here and trying to juice. But I guess that would be OK too. No flame intended bro, just letting you know why we do it. Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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cantgetlayed Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 156) |
posted August 12, 2000 07:15 PM
bump for both of you brothers. I'm eighteen and I know I'm ready. I lift 5 days a week every week. I change up my routine every month. I've fallowed diets for long periods of time. And compared to most kids my age I'm Fuckin HUGE. and I like it. Now I'd like to improve hardness, maybe find a little vascularity under the fat I've accumulated. I will bulk again though, oh yes, I will bulk again. PEace bro's. Just make sure you research extensively before using. later ------------------ IP: Logged |
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X-Man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 116) |
posted August 12, 2000 07:49 PM
Just watch out bro not to stunt your growth, if you are tall then no worries IP: Logged |
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Bchemist Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 214) |
posted August 12, 2000 07:51 PM
I am glad I was not able to get gear when I was 18. Believe me, I tried. If I would have gotten gear back then, I never would have found out the way to optimize my natural periods. I guarantee I would lose 80% everytime I went off if I trained at the standard 3 sets of 8. Those extra drug free years allowed me to discover periodization and tailor it to my own needs. Now that I really know what I am doing, I get the most out of my gear both on and off. I agree that some of the 18-19 bros have been lifting for a few years and know what they are doing. But the vast majority are the little "speed bumps" in the gym who go for 3 weeks at a time, then take a month off, then quit altogether. That is why many of the older bros here have a hard time answering questions. However, I will respect your questions as long as they deserve respect. IP: Logged |
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superkutt Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 181) |
posted August 12, 2000 09:02 PM
bump IP: Logged |
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TheBoxer Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 53) |
posted August 12, 2000 09:41 PM
Bump: I'm 18. Been lifting for 5 years. I had a serious question about a side effect and all i got was stop taking steroids. Thats BS, i've posted my pics on this board. You bros have seen me. I'm perfect for my cycle. If you aren't gonna answer the question, don't reply at all. IP: Logged |
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BigWh1tey Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 253) |
posted August 12, 2000 10:18 PM
well except for premature closure of the growth plates , and enlargement of the genitals there there arent that many detrimental side effects that age would effect .......... Oh and like enlargement of the genitals is a detriment... LOL IP: Logged |
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anibolism Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 150) |
posted August 13, 2000 12:48 AM
I'm tired of kids bitching about their not to young to use gear.All anyone on this board is trying to do is establish in all of the youth that you should learn to workout and enjoy it,earn your gains,gain the patience and work ethic it takes to earn a great body and quit looking for a quick fix.I'll bet that when you get busted you will be crying i'm only a kid please don't send me to jail.quit whining.......... ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Fast Eddie Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 48) |
posted August 13, 2000 01:11 AM
I am only 19, but I have been doing everything correct for a long time now, and have done extensive reasererch( like some bitch planning her wedding type of reaserch) I am confident I know what I am doing and that I am about as big as my genetics will alow naturaly. I just hate when 14 year olds who dont eat right or train properly want to juice because they are not growing, I think that is what we should avoid. If I started back when I was 15 or 16 when other guys around here did, I would be fucked. They did not even know about clomid. They just accepted the sides. Guys around here still dont know shit, they think that a few dbols for two weeks is gonna get them big. One guy I know did three shots of test and stopped because it did not work....Give me a fucking break!!!!!! IP: Logged |
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Stillhere Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 21) |
posted August 13, 2000 01:23 AM
Learn and then JUICE. Learn, learn, learn, then GROW, GROW ,GROW. IP: Logged |
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FLEXMEX Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 246) |
posted August 13, 2000 02:35 AM
I MYSELF AM ONLY 18..I HAVE SOME BUDDIES ON HERE THAT ARE ABOUT THE SAME AGE....IF YOU SAW US WORKING OUT OR EVEN JUST WALKING YOU WOULD SHIT TO FIND OUT THAT WE ARE ONLY 18.WE ARE PRETTY DAMN BIG FOR OUR AGE.AND IF YOU GUYS THINK WE ARE TO YOUNG OR STILL DONT KNOW ENOUGH...TEST US..WE WILL CHANGE YOUR MINDS. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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cantgetlayed Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 156) |
posted August 13, 2000 02:43 AM
I'm six feet two inches, fuck the growth plates ------------------ IP: Logged |
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MIKAI Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 209) |
posted August 13, 2000 10:27 AM
Bro's, Im 21 and finished my d'bol only cycle i went up a stone 14lbs and am happy Gotta wait a couple of more weeks and i will be doing a Sust and Deca cycle and i cant wait. I guess there would only be a couple of reasons why people should not use A/S uder the age of 18 and they are that you dont really finish growing properly until your 20/21 but I was asked if i wanted to try them by my friend he saw that i was busting my ass down the gym and not really getting bigger..! I expect if i could have got hold of them when i was younger i would have used them but i would not have known any think about the sides or dangers to myself I still dont really know alot as there is so much to learn but i will be happy knowing that i have the information behind me when i stick myself for the first time...! So I guess the main problem of younger people doing AS is the danger of then no knowing what they are doing or what could happen to them...! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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rippazoid Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 249) |
posted August 13, 2000 10:31 AM
Id say if you are 18 and have been lifting heavy and consistent since the age of 15. and i mean heavy, with proper dieting etc. then ok especially if you are going to compete. but definately in moderation. IP: Logged |
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IronKop77 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 5) |
posted August 13, 2000 11:48 AM
Ive been reading this board for months learning a great deal. I am 18 (19 in a few weeks) and i am seriously considering a cycle. Ive been lifting hard for 4 years, and havent gained a pound in the past 1.5 yrs. strenght gains ahve slowed but not to a dead hault. Ive tried everything from changing routines to diet to when i workout. Do u think i am ready. IP: Logged |
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Bchemist Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 214) |
posted August 13, 2000 12:02 PM
Here I would say it is not the worst plan of action. If you are getting nowhere and are frustrated, then I would give it a shot. However, do a powerlifting routine first for 8 weeks and see if you don't see a dramatic improvement in your natural training. If that doesn't work, then go ahead with the gear. IP: Logged |
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cunroe Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 102) |
posted August 13, 2000 12:51 PM
Not a flame, just some observations: 1. It is rare that I see an experienced bro reply with �you should quit mid-cycle because you are XX years-old.� Most often, vets try to prevent a youngster from making this crucial decision (to juice) before they have built a solid base of training experience, steroid knowledge, and personal/physical maturity. Even when comments like �you are too young�� or �you should wait until you are XX years-old before you juice� are part of their reply, for the most part younger brothers are provided with quality responses if they are already �underway.� Don�t confuse the two. 2. No, the shittiest advice would be: �Physical maturity is irrelevant, go for it! Put any fucking thing you want into your body. You don�t need to do any research or solicit advice from someone with experience. Just buy it and stick it.� 3. I have no proof to back up this statement (flame suit on), but I doubt that many 18 year-olds have reached their genetic potential. I did not say any, I said many. Only you [the individual] and/or a knowledgeable medical professional could make that determination. 4. Can he or should he? If Joe Blow �just started lifting� age is irrelevant - he probably should not be juicing (again, �Joe� hopefully would acquire a reasonable level of training/dietary/steroid knowledge and experience before making this decision). 5. Do I [can�t speak for other bros] think that someone would stop a cycle because �someone say�s they�re to young?� No, I don�t, I am simply not that na�ve. In all honesty, unless I have a vested interest in the person, I don�t give a fuck what they do or happens to them. 6. QUOTE: �Okay, sure, you should wait untill you've gotten as big as you can naturally, but some of us don't want to wait that long.� This is understandable and I agree. Hopefully we can muster the discipline and knowledge to make good decisions. 7. Sonny did not hit that hard, he was just a fragile pussy. Later, ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Swollen Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 218) |
posted August 13, 2000 01:47 PM
I'm 17, been working out since 10 and I'm 220 pounds @ 5'9" Nuff said ------------------ IP: Logged |
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BillyBadAss Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 157) |
posted August 13, 2000 01:52 PM
Here's the deal, the closer you come to your natural genetic potential, the better off you will be in the long run. But when you do everything right, and you've only gained ten pounds in one year, it makes it tough. I think the requirements should be: 1.Knowledge of AS 2.Several years of serious training 3.Understanding the consequences 4.And make sure you're not still growing, i.e., i know a guy who's dad started him on AS when he was 14. He never grew another inch, proably due to his repeated abuse of AS at such an early age. IP: Logged |
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Swollen Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 218) |
posted August 13, 2000 02:01 PM
You can always do what I did. Go to the doc and get an x-ray of your knee. Then you will be able to see how much of your growth plates is left. Mine are gone, if you still have some, wait. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Jeff_rys Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 648) |
posted August 13, 2000 02:19 PM
You are 6.2 and probably nothing will happen. The real problem is that some people get short legs and a large upperbody. But he, it is your life. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short IP: Logged |
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Juicer56 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 355) |
posted August 13, 2000 05:04 PM
I'm with FLEXMEX on this one...im 18 as well and currently as of this morning(sunday) i weighed in at 239 and 8.4% bodyfat according to the calipers(but that has nothing to do with anything), i know exactly what you mean by being mature enough to juice because most of my friends lives revovle around partying but everyone is not the same...i have been very dedicated to lifting/bodybuilding since i was 14/15 and ill show you a before/after pictures(email me as i do not like having my face all over the internet) from 15@ 270 35%+bf to 190 15% in a year period naturally...from there i trained another 1.5yrs naturally to get to 200@ 10% and decided to start my 1st cycle within the past year of being enhanced 3 cycles later this is where i stand...besides not a single god damn one of you on here "DESERVE" to juice so whats the big deal, and also everyone has different goals so you can't give your opinion based on what you want to accomplish..if someone is young and a dumbshit don't give them your time if its going to irritate you..remember stress raises cortisol levels...so to all the "of age" bro's on here..feel free and get worked up over this b.s. while we continue to grow IP: Logged |
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Recoome Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 156) |
posted August 13, 2000 05:25 PM
I started training at age 6. Four years later, at age 10, I believe I've reached my genetic potential. I'm ready to juice. All joking aside, your metabolism usually doesn't slow down enough for optimal growth until 18-19. If your gains stop, it can mean two things: 1) You've reached your absolute genetic limitations (which you probably haven't), or far more likely 2) Your current training routine is no longer productive. It's time to learn about cycling training routines, rep schemes, intensities, exercises, diet, and different ways to shock the muscle into growth. The more you learn, the more you can maximize your genetic potential, that's all. IP: Logged |
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