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 CLEN + CYNOMEL + XENADRINE CYCLE - CRITIQUE PLEASE!
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Anabolix-BRASIL Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 29 |
posted August 12, 2000 02:13 PM
   
Guys, please help me out here, flame if you want, but just be constructive! Decaman, i trust you, but more infos are always welcome. I'm using CLENBUTEROL 50MCG each tab. Days-Clenbuterol-Cynomel----Xenadrine Thankx Anabolix [This message has been edited by Anabolix-BRASIL (edited August 12, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Anabolix-BRASIL Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 29 |
posted August 12, 2000 02:27 PM
Bump for myself! IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 804 |
posted August 12, 2000 02:28 PM
Looks good, except one thing; it is not good to be on all that stuff together and then stop it all at the same time. You should continue the clen and ECA for another 2 weeks after you finish the t3. This will help you come dowm a little more slowly. I would also recommend upping the clen dosage to 4 or 6 per day. 2 clen per day won't hardly do anything. I start a similar cycle that was recommened to me by decaman tommorrow. I researched a little about the cycle he gave me and decided that I liked it and am going to give it a try. Also I thought you should know that t3 comes in 25 or 50 mcg tabs, not mg. Oh, and thanks again, decaman, I'll let you know how it goes. Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 932 |
posted August 12, 2000 02:49 PM
I gave it to him to, why he is fucking with it I do not know. I want updates on your progress mav, get fuckin shredded bro! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Anabolix-BRASIL Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 29 |
posted August 12, 2000 05:09 PM
Hey guys, if you JUST readm my previous post, you would see that the CLEN i'm using has 50MG. The cycle DECAMAN gave me had CLEN at a 20MG base. I had to lower the quantities or else i would die. Decaman, don't flame for this, i doing what ir correct, and i changed the XENADRINE also because i low no money. IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 932 |
posted August 17, 2000 08:07 AM
No brasil it was 20mcg, if it were 20mg I would not have been alive to give you the cycle ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 804 |
posted August 17, 2000 05:45 PM
So what is your final decision? You gonna leave it like this or change it? If you're gonna change it, let's see the changes. Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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Pharm Animal Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 114 |
posted August 17, 2000 10:20 PM
bro... lower on the T3....do you actually WANT muscle loss? are you using anabolics as well? at these dosages for T3, i hope so! i speak from experience...it's not fun to get small from T3!!! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 932 |
posted August 17, 2000 10:55 PM
Bro I did that cycle and I gave it to him and a few others. Now from experience, I lost no muscle from it, only bodyfat, in fact I am bigger now then before I started it, and I have been told that by numerous people. I agree you must be on gear, I disagree with the muscle loss theory with t3. I used a lo-carb diet about 125 carbs a day along with high protein. I have not heard back from others who have done that cycle yet so i will not make a blanket statement and say no one will lose muscle on it, as a matter of fact I can never make that statement. In my opinion the muscle loss aspect is blown out of proportion. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 804 |
posted August 17, 2000 11:08 PM
Not arguing with you, Decaman, but I have heard several people on the board that say they lost muscle with it. That was, of course, without being on gear. Makes sense to me that you would lose muscle if taken without gear because it speeds up your meabolism alot. But as you know this is my first experience with t3 so I don't know from personal experience; just what I've heard from others. I think if taken with gear you would gain muscle because of the faster protien synthesis. BTW, cycle is going OK. Very shaky. Having trouble sleeping. I have lost about 3 lbs since Monday but this could be due to less food in my body. How fast did the fat come off of you? I am eating about 2000 cal per day, keeping the carbs pretty low and try not to eat after 8pm. I usually go to bed at 12pm. If I get hungry at night I try to eat all protien like eggs or something. Also I have been experiencing some back pain on my middle right side. Did you get this? I don't know if it is my kidneys or what. When I lay down it feels like my back is about to cramp up. And when I sit at my computer it hurts real bad. Any clues as to what might be the cause? I thought about getting a potassium supplement because I have been getting muscle cramps every now and then. Oh almost forgot. Comgrats on your new position as a mod on Xman's board. Are you the only one right now? Peace...Mav [This message has been edited by Maverik (edited August 17, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Pharm Animal Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 114 |
posted August 17, 2000 11:16 PM
i have found it difficult to maintain mass on anything over 50 mcg of T3 per day. i know that plenty of it is individual metabolism, so i can't say that 100 mcg is too high....but 25 mcg is plenty enough for me! PS....i have experienced muscle loss with T3 on AND off cycle....so i just limit my intake of it IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 932 |
posted August 17, 2000 11:48 PM
Someone royally fucked up x-man's board and I am super pissed about it. In answer to your question, the weight will come off faster at first, should slow down after the first 10 days or so. As far as your calories go, my take is this, eat as much as you can to maintain muscle and weight provided you are still losing bodyfat, i was right around the 2000 calorie mark most of the time, but if I looked to flat or felt too weak, some days I ate 3000 calories. And in the end I think cycling calories was beneficial, a high carb day or two is good as far as I am concerned. I had some back pain also, what gear are you using? It susbsided after a while. As far as sleep goes, forget it i have not slept since april, and that cycle made it worse by far, i bet you aren't tired though. Be prepared bro it will get hairy at the high point , email me or get a hold of me when it does, I will help you through it. Remember in the end if you did what you were supposed to it will be worth it, that is how I got through it. Is your bf dropping yet? It will drop like a mofo starting around 10 days or so, right now you are shedding water mostly. Thanx for the congrats, hopefully we can fix the board and you will visit, and right now I am the only mod, but we hope to need a few more ------------------ [This message has been edited by Decaman (edited August 17, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder Posts: 804 |
posted August 18, 2000 01:27 AM
Decaman: I am on 300mg of primo per week and 50mg of winny powder everyday. I am kinda worried about my liver and kidneys because in the beginning of my bulking cycle I took dbol for 4 weeks and now I am on the winny powder. I know this is not smart to do but I am taking Milk thistle and I have promised myself to stay away from orals forever. I decided at the beginning of the cycle that this would be the last time I ever took orals so I basicly said what the hell and did both. The main reason I did this was because I already had the dbol and powdered winny was all I could afford. But like I said, no more orals ever so please don't flame me for that anyone. I just hope my liver is alright. Oh, one last thing, did you get cramps from the clen and do you think a potassium supplement would help with that. Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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