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TheBoxer Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 55) |
posted August 12, 2000 05:19 AM
  
Okay here's what's going on: I am almost a week into a d-bol/sustanon cycle. Taking clomid eod. I'm only 18 so i might be freaking out. I'm taking 8 a day. I fell asleep around 10:45 at my girlfriends house. When i woke up around 12:30 to start heading home, i noticed my jaw was a little sore, and i had a bad headache. So i went home, took another tab and some dandelion root. here i wake up for my 4am tab and the right side of my throat is killing me. I don't know what the hell is goin on. I don't wanna freak out and go to the hospital, please tell me if you have ever heard of this beore, and what i can do. Thanks IP: Logged |
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bignate73 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1338) |
posted August 12, 2000 05:52 AM
could be a swollen lymph node. AS can downgrade your immune system, and sust is notorious for flu like symptoms the first week or so. give it another day and see if things get better. IP: Logged |
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swol Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 162) |
posted August 12, 2000 01:40 PM
here is the problem... you are only 18. stay away from AS until at least 21. swol IP: Logged |
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TheBoxer Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 55) |
posted August 12, 2000 03:45 PM
Update: When i woke up this morning, it didn't hurt as much. But it is really swollen. I don't wanna go to the dr. cus he will know i am on steroids. What should i do? Is there anything i can take? IP: Logged |
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animal B Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1156) |
posted August 12, 2000 03:48 PM
maybe your girlfriend was sick down below..this may explain the pain in your throat and bad breath...just pulling your chain bro....18..stop now and wait a few years,, IP: Logged |
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TheBoxer Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 55) |
posted August 12, 2000 03:54 PM
I don't wanna be lectured about how i shouldn't be on roids. I need help with my problem. Please cut out the stop taking roids answers. I need some serious help please IP: Logged |
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superkutt Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 183) |
posted August 12, 2000 03:55 PM
bro stop the use of AS now. lift naturally until you quit growing. you will be better off for it later. IP: Logged |
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BigJay81 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 339) |
posted August 12, 2000 03:58 PM
First off Swool This can happen to anyone sust can kick yourass no matter how old you are. Don't get jealous Because most of us younger people started out ealier than you. We didn't wake up one day and say "Hey I'm 30 fat and don't have a life Maybe I should start taking care of myself, or just us anabolics because I'm over 21" The Boxer it sounds like its the sust beatting the hell out of you stick with it. Drink a shitload of water and keep taking your previntive measures. If it last more than three days go see the doc. He can only help you out. If your worried about you parents your 18, your doc can't give out any of your info. Unless you admit a crime against some one. Good Luck BRO. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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TheBoxer Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 55) |
posted August 12, 2000 04:03 PM
Thanks BigJ. Yesterday, i was all day so i din't drink as much water as i usually do. I will load up on the water today. Hopefully that'll get rid of it. IP: Logged |
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TheBoxer Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 55) |
posted August 12, 2000 04:10 PM
I figure if i have another question, i will have to make up some new name so that i won't get treated like that. I've posted my picture here before. You bros have seen me. i have a real good foundation. I just have trouble putting mass on. I've been training for 5 years and it's time for me to get some bulk. So don't flame me cus i am only 18 IP: Logged |
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BigJay81 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 339) |
posted August 12, 2000 04:12 PM
No problem, I'm still going to bump this everyday allday until those ignorant fuck read it and maybee see how retarded they are by not helping you out. SOME ONE COMES HERE FOR HELP AND YOU GUYS TELL HIM TO QUIT. HE STARTED HE'S DOING IT WHY THE FUCK CAN'T YOU JUST HELP PEOPLE OUT. Every day this will be at the top. Until someone sees that they should help out thier fellow bodybuilders.
HELP OTHERS AND YOU WILL BE HELPED AGE HAS NOTHING TO DO ABOUT IT ITS NOT THE AGE ITS THE NUMBERS OF MILES YOU FUCK SOMEONE OVER THE FAVOR WILL BE RETURNED JUST HELP PEOPLE OUT!!!!!!DAMN ------------------ IP: Logged |
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BigJay81 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 339) |
posted August 12, 2000 04:14 PM
bUMP IT DROPPED A SPOT ------------------ IP: Logged |
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BigJay81 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 339) |
posted August 12, 2000 04:23 PM
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tries6 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 15) |
posted August 12, 2000 04:42 PM
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TheBoxer Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 55) |
posted August 12, 2000 04:56 PM
Bump. I need to know if anyone has experienced something like this before. Can this end up being harmful? If i go to the dr. will he know i am using steroids? Also, can if he gives me an antibiotic, can i take it with steroids? IP: Logged |
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CraZyWhiTe Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 43) |
posted August 12, 2000 05:01 PM
I am into my 5th week of D-bol.. at 35mgs a week this is my last week so i am tapering down to 25 mgs... And i am also into my 2nd week of Nordren 200 at 40 0mgs a week.. But my throat is so fucked up.. i can barley sleep.. Its hard as hell to swallow and my sleep is fucked up over all anyine else have this problem.. and what can I do .. I am 29 6'00" 210 lbs.. thanks IP: Logged |
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Hacker Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 59) |
posted August 12, 2000 05:07 PM
If you do have to go to the doctor, I would definately tell him what you've been taking. Otherwise he might prescribe something and really fuck you up. Just my opinion. IP: Logged |
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CraZyWhiTe Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 43) |
posted August 12, 2000 05:45 PM
bump and I m on my way To Atlantic City to win big and buy everyone some gear.... I love those Jersey Girls....... ------------------ -Big Pappa Pump IP: Logged |
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natedawg Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 20) |
posted August 12, 2000 07:16 PM
Vitamin C- probably the most overlooked and useful supplement. Work up to 3 grams or more per day. Since I started taking it a couple years ago, I haven't been sick for more than two days. Of course, other vitamins and antioxidants will probably help too. IP: Logged |
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Bam Bam Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 25) |
posted August 12, 2000 08:53 PM
hey boxer, If your that sick, go tothe doctor anyway. Who gives a fuck if he knows your on juice. Hes not going to turn you in. Theres a thing called "patient doctor privacy clause" I don't think he can tell your parents if thats what your worried about. You pay your doctor to work for you not rat you out. He might lecture you a little but so what. Good luck bro Bam Bam IP: Logged |
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jersey boy Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 447) |
posted August 12, 2000 08:58 PM
Perhaps you have an anterior scalene or sternocleidomastoid sprain/strain. These muscles are located in the front of your neck and can sometimes mimic jaw and neck pain or even the headaches you said you had. The slightest overexertion can cause big problems because these muscles are always in use. I'd give it a couple of days, keep in mind that although I don't have the exact location of your problem, that the thyroid is located in close proximity to your problem.
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Stillhere Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 23) |
posted August 12, 2000 10:07 PM
Bump Help each other out man!! Drink lots of water, eat like a mother fucker ,lift like a mother fucker. IP: Logged |
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TheBoxer Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 55) |
posted August 12, 2000 10:19 PM
I had a great workout today. Gained 5lbs repping on my bench press since wednesday. I feel fine, it's just that my throat is swollen IP: Logged |
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bbman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted August 12, 2000 10:47 PM
Do you have a fever? Any chills? Sounds like you have an infection. Probably gear related. Take a couple of aspirin and hydrate yourself and take it easy. If your throat hurts, gargle with warm salt water and stay away from citric acid. The systems you have described so far are indicative of the immune system battling what it perceives to be a viral infection. Whenever you start a new medication, whether it be AS or something else, this is how the body will usually respond. Do not be afraid to go see your doctor, you do not have to tell him that you are using steroids. He is there to treat the symptoms and that is what they usually do. Don't get offended by the brothers on the board who would rather see you reach your own natural potential before cycling. They know what they are talking about and are looking after your best interests. True that they do not really know you or your situation, they just see what they read and this is a sign that they care. And for the yoyo with the crack about waking up at thirty and discovering to be overweight..........ummmm....I resemble that comment. Peace bros. IP: Logged |
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EVIL Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 28) |
posted August 12, 2000 11:04 PM
I DIDN'T GET SICK WHILE ON SUS. BUT AMEN ON THE VITAMIN C ! I TAKE 1 GRAM OF C AND 400iu OF E EVERY 3 HOURS. BUMP!!! IP: Logged |
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powerlifterjay Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 55) |
posted August 12, 2000 11:50 PM
Gear can fuck with ya in many ways if i drink alot of beer the next day my wrists and fingers are fuckin huge. It doesnt matter if your Dr knows you use. Hell if your big enough there's no hiding it. Period to your Family friends or co workers. If you get big then man your big! You have swollen lymph notes lower your usage a bit and see what happens. It isny serious but if you fell it is then go to the Dr and dont worry about his opinion. Good luck. IP: Logged |
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anibolism Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 150) |
posted August 13, 2000 12:55 AM
Guess what your sick.just go to the doctor and let him see whats wrong and give you some medicine.Unless your having a allergic reaction to something your steroid use should not even be mentioned.If asked just tell him your taking creatine....later. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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BigJay81 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 339) |
posted August 13, 2000 01:27 AM
BBman You call me a YoYo watch what you say tha can be taken offensive. Anyway thanks for helping him out ------------------ IP: Logged |
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bbman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted August 13, 2000 02:44 AM
Bigjay was that you? Sorry bro. Forgot to put the john kennedy or lots of love at the end of my post. jk lol IP: Logged |
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YellowD98 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 508) |
posted August 13, 2000 03:14 AM
This exact thing is happening to me. It started about 2 weeks ago, my tonsils were inflamed very large. It was painful to swallow and felt like a bone was stuck in the back of my mouth, scraping my throat and the back of my mouth. I thought maybe I had gotten something stuck in my mouth until I realized my tonsils were swollen. Its either some sort of infection or the filtering of the oil from the omnadren I was taking. It went away after a few days of a LOT of water, rest, and some time. Its still a littl sore now, but nothing compared to how it was earlier. Don't be too alarmed unless its persistent. IP: Logged |
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YellowD98 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 508) |
posted August 13, 2000 03:17 AM
Oh yeah, and I gargled every few hours with salt water, that helps relieve the pain significantly. Try not to rub your tongue against it, it will only make it worse too. IP: Logged |
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Little_Hurt Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 43) |
posted August 13, 2000 09:42 AM
Boxer, Do you take any vitamins? I got sick on my first cycle, and yes was using sust. I also had same symptoms. A friend of mine "MR. NATURAL", I'll call him suggested vitamins since my diet didn't consist of many. I thought yeah right, but took a multi, 1000 Vit C, 1000 Vit E(which makes me horny as hell for some reason), and plenty of H20 and I haven't HONESLTY felt sick for 5yrs. No shit, even on a hard cycle of Sust. Try it, who knows. IP: Logged |
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TheBoxer Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 55) |
posted August 13, 2000 11:24 AM
Thanks bros. This is really helping me. It doesn't hurt at all unless i try to open my mouth real far, the real pain is sorta under my jaw, when i poress on it, so i wont do that anymore. I'm beginning to think it's not gear related. It could be something to do with my teeth. I'll kepp you updated. Also, if the doc tries to prescribe any medications, could they cause a bad reaction with my steroids? IP: Logged |
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Consultant Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 82) |
posted August 13, 2000 11:34 AM
Yes there are some drug interactions. Just find a good doctor and tell him honestly what you are doing It is illeagal for him ever to repeat it so just be honest. IP: Logged |
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swol Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 162) |
posted August 13, 2000 01:42 PM
bigjay81. you must be 18 as well. is that 1981? well if so this is the exact reason why i say if you are under 21 you should not play with AS. you just showed the ignorance many people who are 18 and messing with AS. think about it. ask a doctor, ARE YOU FULLY DONE GROWING IN HEIGHT, THICKNESS, BONE STRUCTURE WHEN YOU ARE 18. HELL NO. MEN DONT STOP DEVELOPING TILL THEY HIT AT LEAST 23. so for any 18 year old to mess with AS he is messing with his future potentials. get a clue and come back with more knowledge. swol IP: Logged |
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Swollen Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 218) |
posted August 13, 2000 01:58 PM
I think some of the older guys are jealouse because we will have more success with AS then thay did. All things aside; It's not just health and muscles, its money. If I pay $150.00+ for a cycle, I'm going all the way, all out, with nutrition and training! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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hardKore Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 29) |
posted August 13, 2000 03:11 PM
BOXER, GO TO THE DOC, HE WILL ONLY KNOW UR ON JUICE IF U TELL HIM WHEN HE GETS YOUR HISTORY FROM U. HE'S NOT PHUKING PSYCHIC, OK? NOW GO SEE HIM. YOU HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR YOURSELF, FORGET WHAT ANYONE ELSE THINKS. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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BigJay81 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 339) |
posted August 13, 2000 05:50 PM
Swol Why don't we we both post some pics and will see who doesn't need to mess with AS. Don't talk out of your ass. BigJay81 Stats: 5'10" Don't talk out of your ass. The truth is you probably you don't know what your talking about. All that was posted before was that you should help people out with thier questions no matter what. Thier age has nothing to do about the questions they ask. The person took the choice to start AS use they had a question and all of us should help them out. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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BigJay81 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 339) |
posted August 13, 2000 05:58 PM
forgot to add I'm 19. And full of enough life to take over the world Not middle aged fat and just started lifting. Because You woke up next to a fat chick and thought to yourself mmmmm she looks good. Don't judge those who are better than you. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Steelheart Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 671) |
posted August 13, 2000 06:03 PM
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KidRock Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 102) |
posted August 13, 2000 06:18 PM
As The Board Turns......LOL IP: Logged |
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hardKore Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 29) |
posted August 13, 2000 06:22 PM
I THINK SOME OF THE PUPPIES ON THE BOARD, HEHE, THINK THEY HAVE IT BETTER NOW THAN SOME OF US OLDER GUYS DID (37). WRONG! IN THE 80'S WHEN I STARTED JUICING IT WAS EVERYWHERE AND CHEAP. NO PHUKING ORDERING AND HOPING NO SCAMMER. NO PHUKING WORRYING ABOUT GETTING BUSTED AND HAVING YOUR CAR CONFISCATED, YOUR HOUSE SEARCHED/TRASHED BY GOV THUGS. FAKES HARDLY EXISTED. AND WE LEARNED TO TRAIN LIKE MEN, NO SQUATS ON THE SMITH, NO PLASTIC APPARATUS TO HELP THE PAIN OF WEIGHT ON YOUR SHOULDERS,PLEASE, I STILL LAUGH AT GUYS WHO HAVE TO USE THAT GARBAGE. AS RESULTS GO, I'VE KEPT MOST OF MINE OVER THE YEARS. OH AND I FORGOT, REAL UPJOHN WINNY-V FOR $125 PER 30ML BOTTLE,IN THE GYM. HEHEHE PUPPIES, DON'T BE DISRESPECTING THE PEOPLE WHO GOT YOU THE KNOWLEDGE YOU HAVE ACCESS TO NOW. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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swol Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 162) |
posted August 13, 2000 06:25 PM
boxer and bj81 check my post at "lets stand corrected.." put your debate and mine down to rest with experience from mods and pros. if you guys are right and age is not an issue *(18) i appologize and will keep my mouth shut. if they agree with me i you will keep your mouth shut. sounds fair to me swol IP: Logged |
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BigJay81 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 339) |
posted August 13, 2000 06:30 PM
This isn't a soap opera I want to see what this guys looks like. If he looks like one of those trainners at the "Y" I'm going to laugh my head off. Who listens to those people. I don't listen to anyone on trainning if they aren't bigger or stronger than me. Around my way thier aren't many who can give me much advice. Heres a little background on me I have been trainning since I was 12 For the juinor olympics for Luge 2 weeks before trials I broke my arm. After it healed they wouldn't let me back in. So I turned to wieght lifting Ever since I have played on 5 varsity sports for all 4 years in high school and have won a number of records. I out lift everyone at my college I'm bigger faster and I'm adding more mass every year. I decided to use AS to break through a pleato that I have been at for a year and a half. I've been researching for a little over a year I don't know everything and I don't claim to But I took the time and effort to work up to were I'm at and deserve some respect for all that I have achieved. And for all of you people who Say I'm to young I don't give a fuck. Your not me And I am the only one Who can tell If i'm ready to use or not. If you have any questions about me just write And I'll tell you. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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tb huge Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 80) |
posted August 13, 2000 08:07 PM
I am on 1000 mg of enathate per week and 400 mg of Deca. I am starting my 4th week, everytime I start test I get flu like symptoms. So far I have gone from 190-219 in 3.5 weeks. As far as your problem drink water constantly. Make sure you are taking vitamins and taking proper nutrition to try and keep your body's normal function in check. When you take AS your body pretty much does nothing but try to grow your muscles that is why you get the flu like symptoms. You said you had a girlfriend have her give you massages these help to relax you and will help with headaches and stress relief. As far as the bums that think there is an age limit for AS........Go F___ yourself, everyone of us is breaking the law it doesn't matter if you're 8 or 80 it is still an imprisonable offense!!!!!!! Target more of your rage at something you have more control of. Tb Huge IP: Logged |
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swol Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 162) |
posted August 13, 2000 08:24 PM
bj81, are you ok? or is the rage getting to you. you seem to be taking this a little too personal. listen man, im not saying i have a better or bigger body than you do . so you are bigger, stronger and faster, but that doesnt mean you are any smarter. if you did your homework you would know you are fucking with your body a little too soon. what difference does it make that you are bigger or im smaller. im sure lots of bros here are bigger than the mods, but that doesnt mean they are any smarter. right? you proved my point by your aggressive rage and ignorance. thats probably why you started with AS. that young age shows the child like behavior. you want to take all this as flames go ahead, im just telling you the info as i have read from the past on this board. swol IP: Logged |
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bbman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted August 13, 2000 08:37 PM
Hey bro, cut the middle age fat shit remarks. You'll be there one day too. Now you are getting offensive bro. For the bro with the health questions...what ever your doctor does perscribe, before you get it filled, call a pharmacy annonymously and tell him what kind of roids you are taking and what your doctor perscribed. Ask the pharmacist if the drugs will interact. If he says that he needs to check it out, make an appointment to call him back the next day for an answer. Pharmacists are usually very friendly and will gladly answer your questions, and they know better than docs what drugs interact with others. Peace bro. IP: Logged |
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LoneRider Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 31) |
posted August 13, 2000 09:31 PM
bigjay81 is full of shit....u know your lying about your stats...theres no way u run a 4.2 IP: Logged |
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d1734 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 100) |
posted August 13, 2000 10:16 PM
i think i agree with LoneRider. for example, if i'm correct the florida state record in the 40 yard dash is 4.19 by lavernues coles. 4.2 is very rare on the NFL level. anyways this is besides the point. some ppl (although rare) grow several inches when they are past the age of 18. IP: Logged |
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Stillhere Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 23) |
posted August 13, 2000 10:38 PM
I respect the BB's who have been with the sport for some time now. Thanks for everything!!!!! Sergio Olivas was a great contributor. BUMP TO ALL THE OLDER GUYS!!!!! IP: Logged |
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BigJay81 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 339) |
posted August 14, 2000 12:00 AM
If you do your research you would see that AS doesn't cause RAGE or aggression. I'm just tired of people giving me shit becuase I started and have worked my way to a great body. And I am now using AS to further improve it. As for the stats as soon as I buy a Scanner the pics will be up. It shouldn't be long. And the 40 that is my personal record. For the fact that the NFL players don't reach that just shows that They haven't reached the level that olyimpians have reached. Speed is in your mind the wieght of the bar is in your head. If you can focus your energy you can do anything that the body is capable of handleing. Give it some time boys you might reach the point were I have left behind.
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ulter Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 321) |
posted August 14, 2000 12:08 AM
Thanks stillhere, I'm an old guy. BigJay I don't wake up next to a fat women. I wake up next to http://www.thewebloom.com/ula she's my wife. You think I'm Jealous of you LMFAO. This was Bill Pearle at 56. (I'm not that old) Big Jay you don't now and probably will never look this good. IP: Logged |
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BigJay81 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 339) |
posted August 14, 2000 01:03 AM
Sorry for the 30 year old cracks I was just trying to make a point probably not the wat to go about it. Thier are alot of older people who will always be in better shape than me(not many) But I really think age shouldn't have anything to with it. If your on Your on. If you make the choice not to go on AS good for you. The cracks about older people will stop. And Utler nice wife she looks damn good. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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