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Author Topic:   Best Natural Supp to help maintain gains post cycle..Input?
TonyDelk
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 45)
posted August 12, 2000 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TonyDelk   Click Here to Email TonyDelk     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sure there is info in the archives, but with so many new "natural" supps on the market like Methoxy, this bug juice from Cornelius, Trib, Glutamine, Creatine, HMB etc..what is the consensus to use post cycle to try and maintain gains?(going off completely for a couple of months)

I've heard good things about the supplement Glutacene(made by Advanced genetics). It is a combo of Glutamine and BCAA's in powder form. Suppposedly best used while working out(sipping)to preserve lean tissue. My plan is just to use Creatine(effervescent)and tons of powdered glutamine.(glutacene)

What is the consensus?

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lizard
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted August 12, 2000 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lizard   Click Here to Email lizard     Edit/Delete Message
ZMA, i took this after a cycle of sten and kept all my gains.

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X-Man
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posted August 12, 2000 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for X-Man   Click Here to Email X-Man     Edit/Delete Message
Tribulus, Elk Antler, and Zinc works well. Not like Clomid though

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TonyDelk
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posted August 12, 2000 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TonyDelk   Click Here to Email TonyDelk     Edit/Delete Message
? about Clomid.

I have ample amounts, but since I did a Deca only cycle(low dose)I didn't dose any but maybe once a week the last couple of weeks of injects.

I have a bit of deca dick right now, but am wondering whether or not I should start hitting Clomid daily at 100mgs per. My last inject was on Tuesday night and everything I've read indicates that Clomid should be introduced later rather than sooner to allow more clearance time out of the system for the deca.

Should I wait another 8-10 days before hitting it at 100mgs per? Or should I start doing it now?

Appreciate the advice.

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FLEXMEX
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted August 12, 2000 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLEXMEX     Edit/Delete Message
a high potency multi mineral
zmass pm

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BigJay81
Amateur Bodybuilder
posted August 12, 2000 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigJay81   Click Here to Email BigJay81     Edit/Delete Message
I'm going to use creatine after my cylce.

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media
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posted August 12, 2000 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for media   Click Here to Email media     Edit/Delete Message
Natural? Shit, what is natural? Apples and stuff? j/k! Well, the only natural stuff I'll go for is maybe Creatine. During the off weeks I take Clomid (3 weeks) clen (3-5 weeks) and Russian Kalium Orotat (all the way). And sorry for asking, what is ZMA?

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Vitaman
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posted August 12, 2000 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vitaman   Click Here to Email Vitaman     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 77744808
Clomid and creatine

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BigJay81
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posted August 12, 2000 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigJay81   Click Here to Email BigJay81     Edit/Delete Message
Its zinc Magnesium and I believe asparate.
Correct me if I'm wrong used the stuff once. Its only supposed to work with people who are defiecent in those areas.

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Decaman
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posted August 12, 2000 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Decaman   Click Here to Email Decaman     Edit/Delete Message
Clomid, clen, creatine, glutamine, trib. Check out the gains keepers formula, looks promising also.

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foreverblast
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posted August 12, 2000 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for foreverblast   Click Here to Email foreverblast     Edit/Delete Message
try methoxyisoflavone and ZMA, HMB, and creatine.

john

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xrciseink
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posted August 12, 2000 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for xrciseink     Edit/Delete Message
Keeping gains is predetermined by the foundation you have created for yourself. Once off the juice you will lose leaness in a lot of cases....strength and size seems to be maintained with the ectomorphic build better, but strength and size seems to explode in mesomorphs while on the juice, but the mesomorph seems to have a more pronounced shrinking effect...the more gains you can get clean, the better off you will be...no matter what kind of build you are.

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tmi533
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posted August 15, 2000 08:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tmi533   Click Here to Email tmi533     Edit/Delete Message
mep,clomid or dicyclofenil

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ajc1977
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posted August 15, 2000 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ajc1977     Edit/Delete Message
ZMA is Zinc and Magnesium Aspartate, all of them also have Vitamin B-6...

Several companies make a ZMA product, and if you look at the label they all have exactly the same amount of each. (That is, all of them that I've seen)

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Decaman
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posted August 15, 2000 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Decaman   Click Here to Email Decaman     Edit/Delete Message
So is zma the same as zmass?

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ajc1977
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posted August 15, 2000 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ajc1977     Edit/Delete Message
Yes it's the same as ZMASSpm ...Thing is, I like Xenadrine so much compared to other ECA's that I bought ZMASSpm only because it's made by Cytodyne. I get supplements dirt cheap though, so if I was paying retail, I'd probably go with any brand when it comes to ZMA.

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GAAV KOSH
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posted August 15, 2000 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GAAV KOSH   Click Here to Email GAAV KOSH     Edit/Delete Message
I remember someone mentioning a herbal supplement named MACA to help bring back natural test levels post cycle.

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gamer
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posted August 15, 2000 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gamer   Click Here to Email gamer     Edit/Delete Message
Man deca inhibits the testicular axis just like test (only not quite as severe). Youshould always use clomid if it is available to you. Take it now and enjoy your gains a month from now. If not your taking a chance you don't need to as you already have it.

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LEVIATHON
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posted August 15, 2000 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEVIATHON   Click Here to Email LEVIATHON     Edit/Delete Message
a good natural substitute for clomid is chrysin....try it, its not clomid but it should do the trick, other than that...maybe andro, creatine? im not sure

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Spunky
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posted August 15, 2000 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spunky   Click Here to Email Spunky     Edit/Delete Message
don't waste your money on chrysin. get maca man from gnc if u can't get clomid. I can feel it working, cuz my dick stays hard all the time. double the dosage. 3 pills in morning, 3 before bed.. thats what i do.

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Dr. Adonis
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posted August 16, 2000 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dr. Adonis   Click Here to Email Dr. Adonis     Edit/Delete Message
1. Clomid
2. Creatine
3. Glutamine

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LEVIATHON
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posted August 16, 2000 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEVIATHON   Click Here to Email LEVIATHON     Edit/Delete Message
doesnt matter how you dick feels...its his balls he should be worying about....chrysin will keepo the ball plentiful

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