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 For cutting; Deca /winny or primo/winny?
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ItalianSweetness Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 346) |
posted August 11, 2000 12:02 PM
 
I was wondering because my scource can get primo now and i am willing to pay anything for it if it is worth it. How does it compare to deca in a cutting cycle? IP: Logged |
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Luca Brasi Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 382) |
posted August 11, 2000 12:12 PM
 I like primo a lot but it is a little on the expensive side. And it is good on a low cal diet which is great. IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 862) |
posted August 11, 2000 12:46 PM
I will get an argument over this, but I have cut with eq, primo, and deca, on seperate occasions. I always use winny with one of them no matter what i cut with. As for primo, I get some weird shit happening to me on it so I will stay away from it from now on, however you will retain no water whatsoever on it, which makes it ideal especially if you are one of those people that easily retains water. As for eq, I used it for the first time this year, i wasn't impressed with it,m made the difficult task of dieting even harder as it increased my appy tremendously. For me, with a clean lo-carb diet, low sodium, etc, with the addition of winny, I don't retain water on deca, nor does it smooth me out. So I will go back to cutting with deca and winny, always works for me. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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growtime Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 29) |
posted August 11, 2000 01:09 PM
PRIMO/WINNY: Deca aromatizes and Primo (Bolan of course), doesn�t. Of course don�t expect they to get you ripped by themselves, T3 and clen are a must. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 862) |
posted August 11, 2000 01:26 PM
Stop with the deca aromatizes shit please, I have gotten very cut and very lean on deca, and now I am pretty shredded, and although I used eq, I would be just as shredded, if not more had I used deca, because I would have had tighter control of my diet. I would start quoting some shit from articles and books , but you know what, you gotta try it for yourself, draw your own conclusions. Let's not forget there are plenty of things to take to control any problems you may have if and that is a big if, you have any. I agree that primo may work better for some, esp for contest prep, for a normal person, deca will do the job. And yes t3 and clen, gotta include those no doubt ------------------ [This message has been edited by Decaman (edited August 11, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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ripped to shreads2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 242) |
posted August 11, 2000 01:28 PM
grow winie will prewent from deca aromatizing because it is...... shit cant think of that word help me fellas, well any ways IP: Logged |
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Swollen Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 218) |
posted August 11, 2000 01:32 PM
I am going to use Deca to stack with T3/Clen because it is a great anabolic with few androgenic effects. Especially if your going to run the risk of losing some muscle when on T3. Why not add a little after? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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eDIESEL Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 50) |
posted August 11, 2000 01:43 PM
Deca-Man, you are the authority on Deca, ergo your name...i'm planning on doing a winny/primo cycle as my third and i read a reply on one of the posts that Nor200 is shit. I was wondering if i would still get quality gains from Nor200 stacked w/ Winny-V. looking for quality 10-15lbs permanent gain. it's cheap deca but would i get shit results? If not, what other types of Deca would you reccomend? thnx in advance, bro IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 862) |
posted August 11, 2000 03:33 PM
Thanx, I try. Here is the bottom line, I had a bad experience with the nor, and so did a few of my bros. Can you grow on it? Yes. If it is all you can get, it will work. As far as quality, and I know e2 and 2thick will tell you also, the nor is crap. It is dirty it is underdosed, I broke out bad on it. On the flip side, I am biased towards organon, there is none better, however it is the most expensive, then again it is clean deca and I am sure it is dosaed properly. I never get any sides from it, and it is the only one I do not get sides from. I will use no other deca. The normas are very good also, they are also cheaper ,in my opinion organon is better. So if you want the best-organon, if you want a suitable replacement at a more affordable price, norma. I will never ever put that brovel shit in my body again. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Decaman (edited August 11, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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X-Man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 116) |
posted August 11, 2000 10:25 PM
if you're going to use primo use minimum 600mg's a week. I used 1000mg a week to see some decent results. So cost wise go deca. IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 862) |
posted August 11, 2000 10:34 PM
WTF is with you guys and these insane dosages of primo? I never had to use more than 300mg of the shit to get results, and to get some fucked up side effects too. If i used 600mg, I am afraid to think of what would happen , my dick dripped on 300, the fucker would probabaly be like a busted faucet on 600mg. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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X-Man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 116) |
posted August 11, 2000 11:59 PM
I did one cycle of 300mg decaman, didn't like the results. So went to 600mg. Wasn't too bad but still wasn't very impressed. Did 1000mg gained 24lbs in 12 weeks so I was happy. So that's why I recommened high doses just cause of personal experience. Once I hit 600mg + though my natural test did shut down, only side effect I had IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 862) |
posted August 12, 2000 12:04 AM
It sounds like you used it to bulk? It is really not meant to put 25 pounds on with, that must have cost you a small fortune, i know alot of guys, I can't touch an amp of it for less than 13 or 14. I guess if i bought in bulk i might get it down a little, but i don't care for the shit all that much. Out of curiosity , why did you use it like that, shit you could have bought a ton of test for the same wampum you paid for the primo ------------------ IP: Logged |
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X-Man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 116) |
posted August 12, 2000 12:09 AM
It costed me $1800 US to do that I have no clue why I did it. just to say i did I suppose cause no one I have heard of on these boards had tried that I could of done the same thing for 24lbs with test for about $160 but the muscle I gained is rock hard and I haven't lost anything whatsoever. IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 862) |
posted August 12, 2000 12:13 AM
That's great that you kept it all, I guess if there is a silver lining that would be it, however, you could probably have put on 30+ with test, used primo for the last 5 weeks of the cycle at 300 mg and kept most of it too, with the use of the other post cycle drugs ov course. Maybe there is something to it though, I saw someone esle post about doing a gram a week of it. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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X-Man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 116) |
posted August 12, 2000 12:15 AM
Only drugs I have ever used are primo and winny will be trying out deca and sust in the near future IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 862) |
posted August 12, 2000 12:19 AM
NOW YOUR TALKIN, A LITTLE DECA, ACTUALLY KNOWING YOU LIKE I DO NOW, ALOT OF DECA AND A LOT OF SUS I AM SURE! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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X-Man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 116) |
posted August 12, 2000 12:24 AM
gonna try sust at 500mg a week and deca at 400mg a week with some winstrol at 50mg eod so pretty average dosages IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 862) |
posted August 12, 2000 12:26 AM
Good stack bro, good luck ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Stillhere Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 21) |
posted August 12, 2000 12:29 AM
Primo and Clens bro!!!!!!!!!!!!! IP: Logged |
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X-Man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 116) |
posted August 12, 2000 01:32 AM
thanx decaman IP: Logged |
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shrugs Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 30) |
posted August 12, 2000 11:40 AM
why dont you go with the sus and deca cycle the nwait a while and cut up with winny IP: Logged |
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Jeff_rys Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 648) |
posted August 12, 2000 02:31 PM
X-Man, the only roids i ever used where Deca (not my bag, since i get very sensitive nipples if i go over 200 mgr/week, also water retention, high blood pressure, prostate problems and Deca Dick), Primo, my all time favorite and Winny. Primo and Winny gave me also high blood pressure. After my Primo cycles doing a Winny cycle gave me zero pounds gain, but too much stress on the liver. Decaman, it seems we both are attached to one particular roid.- ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short IP: Logged |
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X-Man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 116) |
posted August 12, 2000 03:18 PM
Well I want to use winny simply to counteract the progesterone IP: Logged |
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Jeff_rys Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 648) |
posted August 12, 2000 03:54 PM
but it is not proven yet that Winny actually blocks Progesterone.(Correct me if i am wrong). ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short IP: Logged |
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ItalianSweetness Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 346) |
posted August 13, 2000 03:21 PM
Is the TOKYO TYPE OF NOR 300 GOOD? I know it is made by counterfeit labs but is it dosed good? If u guys are unsure of the brand then, it is the green box with the head of the dog on it. IP: Logged |
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