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 exogenous insulin vers endogenous insulin
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Mr. Nobody Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 283) |
posted August 10, 2000 04:13 PM
 
why do you guys take exogenous insulin and then have to chase it with carbs to prevent hypo, if just taking a surge of carbs will release your own insulin? My question i suppose, can someone explain why exogenous slin is better than endogenous insulin ? Thank you IP: Logged |
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Mr. Nobody Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 283) |
posted August 11, 2000 07:54 AM
what, no slin experts on this board? IP: Logged |
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Mr. Nobody Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 283) |
posted August 11, 2000 12:11 PM
last bump, before i let it sink IP: Logged |
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Lthrnk Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 55) |
posted August 11, 2000 12:42 PM
 Hope you get what your loking for but I'm not sure what it is so I'll bump you up also ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Your_Moms_Kneepads Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 318) |
posted August 11, 2000 12:45 PM
Endogenous insulin's release/action is almost instantaneous whereas even the fastest exogenous insulin (Humalog-Lispro Insulin) takes 5-15 minutes to start working.Regular insulin takes right around 30 minutes to kick in. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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growtime Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 29) |
posted August 11, 2000 01:21 PM
Before I engaged into gear, I used glucose and got very sick! Take my advice I don�t want anyone to suffer the same so listen carefully: You�ll have to use really huge quantities of carbs to get the same effect of an insulin injection. At such high carb intakes your pancreas gets used to produce too much insulin ALL THE TIME, and you�ll have hypoglycemia naturally, and the more carbs you eat to deal with the hypoglycemia, the more the insulin production increases. If you have any other questions/comments of it Email me, I don�t want you to do the same foolish thing ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Mr. Nobody Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 283) |
posted August 11, 2000 02:44 PM
we are talking about right after workout only anyway, that would be once a day only, but nobody has answered my original question: Why do insulin and chase down your blood sugar with carbs, when you can do high glycemic carbs and get the insulin naturally, for post workout benefits? BTW: what was your big mistake? [This message has been edited by Mr. Nobody (edited August 11, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Monster Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 253) |
posted August 11, 2000 07:22 PM
OK, firtst off... growtime, is right on point! Taking in large amounts of carbs all the time will lead to hypoglycemia. But on to your question... Its like saying "Why take exogenous testosterone, when you can take andro and produce more endogenous testostrone." It just doesnt work that way. Insulin, being a type of "shuttle hormone", will send carbs to glycogen stores, protien into muscle synthesis, and fat into fat stores (thats why some people get fat using it). Going the endogeous route heres what occurs. You take in carbs. Your body processes them, and sends out the "shuttle" to begin delivering the "passangers". Its a compact car so not that many passangers are gonna catch a ride, but thats the way it goes... Going the exogenous route heres what occurs. (Inject) The "shuttle is waiting to pick up the "passangers" before they even leave the house. Its a full size luxury car (due to the fact that this is insulin above and beyond what youll produce). (Intake carbs) Now the "passangers" are being seated, while your body is ALSO processing some carbs in the pancreas and sending out the compact car which will result in a couple other passangers catching a ride. So basically, exogenous insulin creates a far greater reaction that could EVER be accomplished by just taking in carbs. The catch is that as long as the shot of insulin is active in your system, any fat you take in will be sent to your fat stores. Which is why I feel that Humalog (faster than Humalin-R) is the obvious choice. Its starts in 15 minutes and peaks in about an hour or so. Where as with "R", youre looking at upwards of 4 hours of not taking in ANY fat (hey, even a chicken breast has some fat content). I hope that helps. If I missed anything you wanted to know, ask and I'll try and answer for you... IP: Logged |
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