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MOUSE
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted August 10, 2000 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MOUSE   Click Here to Email MOUSE     Edit/Delete Message
My friend wanted clomid I got him hcg,
says he doesnt want it, whats the difference ,which is better.


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OMEGALOS
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posted August 10, 2000 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OMEGALOS   Click Here to Email OMEGALOS     Edit/Delete Message
Some people take the two together, other only HCG and still others only clomid. Both are used to raise test levels (the natural kind) during and after a cycle. Better? Well, I know many people find HCG very effective in this, however it causes your body to produce not only test but estrogen as well. This could end up making you fatty or puffy or to have bitch tits or all of the above, so its better to take it with an antiestrogen like Nolvadex, Arimidex, or yes Clomid. With clomid you dont have the problem of the estrogen boost, it works to prevent this and boost your nat. test level back to normal in the meantime.
If I had to choose to use only one, HCG or Clomid, it would be Clomid. But I think perhaps using both MIGHT be more effective but not neccessary unless you were like taking very large dosages for a long time.
Next time do a search, there is lots of information on this topic in the search engines you will find it right here on this board! Later.

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JR
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posted August 10, 2000 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JR   Click Here to Email JR     Edit/Delete Message
WELL HERE'S MY TWO CENTS, MY DOC SAYS THAT THERE IS NO medical test that support that it does indeed raise test levels. i use it my self and it seemed like it did work. but my doc. knows best so from now on i'm sticking with hcg.

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pillboy
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posted August 10, 2000 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pillboy   Click Here to Email pillboy     Edit/Delete Message
Use both for fastest and best results. Yes clomid does work in the same path that it causes women to ovulate it stimulates the testes to produce test. READ my friends!!!

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bstrong
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posted August 10, 2000 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bstrong   Click Here to Email bstrong     Edit/Delete Message
JR ask your doc what's the usege of HCG on males.
this is what i know about hcg
"the action of hcg is virtually identical to that of LH, allthough hcg appears to have a small degree of follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) activity as well. it stimulates production of gondal steroid hormones by stimulating the interstitial cells of the testis to produce androgens".

basiclly u'd get a short boost of testosteron
but with it might come allso a jump of the female sex hormones.

from what i know the best use of HCG is after a heavy test cycle in which u have used something like clomid or proviron, to give u an extra boost of natural test production.

MOUSE, u can find allot more info on this if u'd search a lil.


[This message has been edited by bstrong (edited August 10, 2000).]

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code_x
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posted August 10, 2000 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for code_x   Click Here to Email code_x     Edit/Delete Message
I alway use both after a sus cycle...I use 2500 I.U. of HCG twice a week for three weeks and usually keep the majority of my mass-x

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gamer
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posted August 10, 2000 09:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gamer   Click Here to Email gamer     Edit/Delete Message
They are totally different although used for a similar purpose. HCG merely delays the eminent crash which occurs when your natural test levels are down as the testicular axis is never reinstated. Clomid cures the problem by actually reinstating the axis.

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