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TonyDelk
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posted August 10, 2000 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TonyDelk   Click Here to Email TonyDelk     Edit/Delete Message
I have heard nothing but great things from my Vet Shop owner in Mexico about this stuff.

She says her clients are buying it off the shelves like mad.(this woman does not scam and I'm sure some know of who I speak) I just got a nice supply and will let everyone know how it is when I go on.

My source/owner thinks it to be dosed at about 275mgs per cc or more. The lab claims it is 300mgs per cc. All I know is it is a much better deal than the Nor200 and the Aussie Decanadrolen.

We'll see about potency soon. If anyone has used it and has comments, feel free to elaborate.

TD

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gamer
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posted August 10, 2000 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gamer   Click Here to Email gamer     Edit/Delete Message
I work with the same lady and also agree that she does not scam period. I know she believes this is good but wait a little until some independant test results come out so you know for sure. i doubt it will be too much longer till we all know the true scoop on the 300mg deca.

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BigTruck
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posted August 10, 2000 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigTruck   Click Here to Email BigTruck     Edit/Delete Message
I think T-Bone was giving this stuff a try -- could be wrong -- drop him a mail and see.

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TonyDelk
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posted August 10, 2000 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TonyDelk   Click Here to Email TonyDelk     Edit/Delete Message
Just bumpin her up...

T-Bone?

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THE APE
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posted August 10, 2000 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for THE APE     Edit/Delete Message
I'll bump this,as these guys are now invading the south and could be part of my future"supplementation".Any word fellas?

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Slopain
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posted August 10, 2000 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71360584
I know what you guys are talking about (gamer and tonydelk) I heave heard the same thing 275-285, I would wait for a lab test, damn I dont know how long this shit takes to get tested, you think someone might have access to a lab. And I know Tokkyo labs has a lab report on there website - but I don't think that would be completely unbiased as they have a conflict of intrests reguarding the validity of the report.

Slopain

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coyote977
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posted August 10, 2000 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coyote977   Click Here to Email coyote977     Edit/Delete Message
I have seen the tokkyo lab deca, I't looks the same as brovel deca same bottle and same flip cap, also got a hold on some d-bol and they look exactly the same as the pink thailand D-bol, I can bet they from thailand, kind of wierd.

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Decaman
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posted August 10, 2000 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Decaman   Click Here to Email Decaman     Edit/Delete Message
Anybody got a price on this yet, it's a 10cc vial right?

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bulldog38
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posted August 10, 2000 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bulldog38   Click Here to Email bulldog38     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 81571308
Im going to Guadalajara MX on Sunday.
Can I get this at the Vet Shop now ?
Does anyone have a pic of the label/box ?

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johndoe
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posted August 10, 2000 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for johndoe   Click Here to Email johndoe     Edit/Delete Message
There are more rumors running around about this "new" deca then any product in recent memory. I would wait for independent lab results before I'd buy or use it.

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Slopain
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posted August 10, 2000 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71360584
Agreed, many of have seen it - but that doesn't mean anything. The price is unstable now, b/c they know they arent a trusted name yet, when lab results come out or reputation grows it will become more standardized (and probably more expensive) if it is legit.

Slopain

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moe dank
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posted August 10, 2000 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moe dank   Click Here to Email moe dank     Edit/Delete Message
how about a price on the 50ml of K. I dont do K, but 50ml, shit i would like to just have that sitting around.

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T-BONE
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posted August 10, 2000 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T-BONE     Edit/Delete Message
I'm the test rat that's trying it now. I am def getting stronger and putting on weight. BUT, I am also using a gram of test a week now, so I couldn't honestly say if the deca has anything to do with it or not. I know that some of you would love to hear me say that the deca is kicking ass, or is not even real, but I just can't really say.

And to answer Decaman, the price I got on it is $90.00 for 10ml (3000mg).

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TonyDelk
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posted August 10, 2000 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TonyDelk   Click Here to Email TonyDelk     Edit/Delete Message
Hate to do it....but

It can be had for $54 bucks in Mexico now at the "right places"...

I think Slopain is right. My belief(yet to be validated) is that the stuff is legit. You can bet your sweet ass that the price will go to about 80 bucks per in Mexico as soon as validation/facts are known.

Which translates to about double on the black market domestic. Maybe more.

Peace,

TD

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Renegade
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posted August 10, 2000 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Renegade   Click Here to Email Renegade     Edit/Delete Message
Wait for the lab tests to come in. Its probably Deca but not at the dosage they claim. (more closer to 200)

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bgriff
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posted August 10, 2000 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bgriff   Click Here to Email bgriff     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 58153208
bump cant wait to see how good it is!!!

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THE APE
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posted August 10, 2000 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THE APE     Edit/Delete Message
YOUR MOMS KNEEPADS IS THE TJ EXPERT.YOU OUT THERE Y.M.K.?

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gamer
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posted August 10, 2000 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gamer   Click Here to Email gamer     Edit/Delete Message
Tonydelk
Your right on the money. As soon as this stuff is found credible and the demand raises the price will shoot up to around $80. Hope it's real and I'm confident we'll know one way ar another pretty soon.

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Renegade
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posted August 10, 2000 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Renegade   Click Here to Email Renegade     Edit/Delete Message
Do they have a website???

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N-V-R-2BIG
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posted August 10, 2000 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for N-V-R-2BIG   Click Here to Email N-V-R-2BIG     Edit/Delete Message
guys the jury on the tokkyo is still out on the verdict. what i do know is i know three people using it now. i know them cuz i went to tijuana and paid 56$/bottle for a few bottles just to try it out when i was in cali last month. they are putting on weight and getting stronger but still too early to tell. WHOEVER PAID 90 BUCKS GOT RIPPED!!!

from what i hear from my guys in coli is that it is an "acceptable" fake (i.e. international pharmacueticals) but dosed fairly accurate (above 250mg). the brovel test according to my source in tj. is dosed below 150mg but the tornel is closer to 200mg. i guess we will have to wait for further results now wont we!!!

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Your_Moms_Kneepads
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posted August 11, 2000 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Your_Moms_Kneepads   Click Here to Email Your_Moms_Kneepads     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the praise Ape! The vet that I deal with are really honest as they come but it is hard to say what the deal really is with TTOKKYO Labs. I will say this-for an underground lab they went thru alot of trouble-packaging and all to get these products on the market. To me the product LOOKS good-but we all know how many things that look good really arent.
If I knew of a reliable lab in the TJ area then I would take it there and have it,along with a few other items tested to set the record straight. This is when Dan Duchaine could have stepped to the plate and set the record straight.

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THESAINT
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posted August 13, 2000 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
YMK, It looks good because it's Brovels
Nor200. Same bottle,same fliptop,same strength(176mgs),different label.

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Your_Moms_Kneepads
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posted August 14, 2000 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Your_Moms_Kneepads   Click Here to Email Your_Moms_Kneepads     Edit/Delete Message
Saint-not to dount you but what/where is source of the information? I want these matters of legitimacy cleared up once and for all

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Damian Borleone
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posted August 14, 2000 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Damian Borleone   Click Here to Email Damian Borleone     Edit/Delete Message
Saint- you keep posting this stuff as a fact (ttokkyo deca is relabled/bottled nora200...ttokkyo methandienone-5 is relabled/bottled BD anabol)- where is your proof? And nice shot about me being Dr. Molina- think of something better next time.


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THESAINT
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posted August 14, 2000 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
Damian,I mean Dr. Molina why did you show up
on the boards on July 8th, about the same time as Ttokkyo labs. You seem to be the Ttokkyo expert and spokesperson why didn't you give us info on all the other Mex. topics
before July 8th? Tonydelk, what kind of statement is that,"My source thinks its around 275mgs" Can she see 275mgs floating around in the vial? Regardless of the Ttokkyo
injectables, thier oral d-bol looks exactly like Thai anabol. NO LEGITIMATE LAB WOULD MAKE THIER PRODUCT LOOK LIKE SOMEONE ELSES.
They are a scam.

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Slopain
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posted August 14, 2000 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71360584
bump

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Damian Borleone
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posted August 14, 2000 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Damian Borleone   Click Here to Email Damian Borleone     Edit/Delete Message
We can go back and forth all you want, but I think people are getting tired of this stuff...My email is [email protected] - email me if you want me to clear up anything else for you.

And as far as your post goes...I didn't mysteriously appear when Ttokkyo labs started making their products- check the archives at the Anabolex board (www.anabolex.com), type in DB, depro, borleone or damian borleone and you'll see NUMEROUS posts from me about mex/mex products...I've been on these boards for over 4 years and was even at Elite Fitness before Spellwin changed to this new format. I've always been interested in training, gear, etc but didn't really take a hands-on approach until reading posts by Animal (and his original 'rave idea), Dr.Vet (authority on mex anabolics) and others...When Elite Fitness/George Spellwin changed their format (message board)- most of the "Vets" from here moved over to Ian's Varix board- I followed and have been postig there for the past 2+ years. The board recently shut down (www.detn8.org/bb), so I decided to come back to Elite and help if I could. I am not trying to sell you anything...and if your personal opinion is that the ttokkyo products suck or are bunk- I have no problem with that and won't try to change your mind...but if you try to post as a FACT something that I know is FALSE- then like I said before, I'll call you on it- which I've done.

Again, I am not Dr. Molina nor am I hoping he'll read this board and somehow get in touch with me and send me free gear or whatever...nor do I work for any other mex company...I'm 27 years old and am involved with Cinema Omega Properties on North Hollywood, CA...gear, training, mexico- strictly a hobby of mine- not a career. I post only to inform/educate- I am not secretly selling ttokkyo (or any other mex product) behind the scenes...I get many emails from people on this board asking if I'd sell to them or help them out with a source, and I tell them all that I can't- my intention on posting here wasn't to make money for myself or any other person...If I wanted to do that I'D WRITE A BOOK!

Btw, again you are wrong about the ttokkyo methandienone being repackaged thai BD anabol- if I can meet up with "Your Moms Kneepads" in Mex I will show him the difference between both tabs...Like I've already said- Ttokkyo dbol is a darker pink color and contains "speckles" of dark pink throughout the tab...thai anabol is solid pink in color.

Again, you have my email, use it because I'm getting extremely tired of defending myself and my motives for posting.

Later

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Renegade
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posted August 14, 2000 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Renegade   Click Here to Email Renegade     Edit/Delete Message
The Saint might be on to something here....

Too bad I cant find the shit in Nuevo. I really want to see what all the shit is about. I will just stick to what I know is legit.

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animal B
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posted August 14, 2000 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for animal B   Click Here to Email animal B     Edit/Delete Message
here are my predictions:
on the testing you may see about 275 to 280MG/ml this will raise the pricing...then they will lower the dosage...bros...they are specifically marketing bodybuilders and have no interest in animals...going by true gut instinct,,nothing else,,,but please watch your asses ,,and take that literally

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Damian Borleone
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posted August 14, 2000 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Damian Borleone   Click Here to Email Damian Borleone     Edit/Delete Message
Not a flame, but most companies involved in this business are specifically marketing their products towards bodybuilders/athletes- this isn't a secret.

Example:

Denkall/Brovel/Ttokkyo all have websites...do the farmers in mexico who buy these products have computers? I doubt it.

Brovel's $150 50ml norandren200- I doubt one single farmer in mexico has paid $1500 pesos for a bottle of nandrolone...why do you think Brovel still makes their norandren 50- farmers, everything else is for "us"...

How many farmers from mexico do you think post regularly on Ausvet/Denkall's message board? And why do you think they included a "counterfeit" section that includes non veterinary products- for farmers? I don't think so.

Why do you think Australia is exporting steroids to mexico? Do you think it makes any difference to a cow or horse where their medicine comes from? Doubt it. Australian pharmaceutical companies know it's easier to get their products from point A (australia) to point B (mexico) that will ultimately end up in point C (U.S.).

Do you honestly think 1cc of Denkadiol has ever been injected into an animal in mexico?

Tornel now includes writing in English on thier boxes- for the farmers in mexico? I think not.

Oral Dbol from Denkall- who is this being marketed towards? If I'm not mistaken, it would be much easier to administer an I.M. injection of dbol vs trying to stuff a pill down an animals throat.

Why do you think Fort Dodge Animal Health, U.S.A is exporting their Equipoise to Mexico (and Ketamine), believe me, they know where it's ultimately going.

Like I said, it's no secret here, or in Mexico or in Australia that any new veterinary medicine/steroid will ultimately end up in the hands of athletes/bodybuilders. Australia is the only country that is currently attempting to stop all exports of their steroids to Mexico (hype because of the Olympics).

[This message has been edited by Damian Borleone (edited August 14, 2000).]

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Jeff_rys
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posted August 14, 2000 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff_rys   Click Here to Email Jeff_rys     Edit/Delete Message
Renegade, here you go
http://www.ttokkyo.com.mx/docs/ttokkyo/testimony.html

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