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BigPapaPump
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posted August 09, 2000 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigPapaPump   Click Here to Email BigPapaPump     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39254017
Don't go into a mad panic. There have been alot of busts going on lately.

I posted a few days ago warning about new sources getting around and trying to get you (us) to help them out. There is a new SoOuth American source wanna be out there that I would be willing to bet is actually DEA. I say new because he has mailed me repeatedly asking for me to help him out in exchange for a cut of the profit. He is way to persistant to be anything other than the law. I know that some of you have or are helping him as he gave me some names. Take my advice and stop what you're doing.

If you hit other boards then you know that some of the mods of those boards have recently been busted. One board in particular has been hit heavy. Aern't you glad its not here ?

It is being said that the law has hired people to surf the net and become their ears.
Normally I would not listen to this had I not read in my local newspaper of a gear related bust happening due soley to internet related activities.

I really would hate to see any of you get in trouble just for being stupid. You can't live your life watching your back every second. Some of you are just being crazy. I get email after email from guys asking me about so and so and telling me their 'deals'. Trust me when I say this, nothing is free and if it looks like its too good to be true....it is.

BPP

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Frackal
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posted August 09, 2000 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Frackal   Click Here to Email Frackal     Edit/Delete Message
Bump this for sure. Reffering to the ug I'm assuming BPP?

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Steriod_Virgin
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posted August 09, 2000 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steriod_Virgin   Click Here to Email Steriod_Virgin     Edit/Delete Message
Thats a big bump.. I got a strange email from some guy who said he knew me from elitefitness, and had some stuff he wanted to sell me real cheap. I dont even respond to people I dont recognize anymore. I hope this doesnt offend anyone. If some one is just like hey, doing the same thing you are etc.. i'll write back, but If we have never spoken back and forth, and the first thing you have to say to me is about gear, how you want it or want to sell it to me.. no offense, just playing it safe bros.

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E2
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posted August 09, 2000 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
I'll bump that, watch your back always.

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timac
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posted August 09, 2000 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for timac   Click Here to Email timac     Edit/Delete Message
thanks for the info Big Papa.

bump.

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Jim Layhoe
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posted August 09, 2000 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Layhoe   Click Here to Email Jim Layhoe     Edit/Delete Message
bumpppp

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Quadzilla
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posted August 09, 2000 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Quadzilla   Click Here to Email Quadzilla     Edit/Delete Message
I hear you guys. I just e-mailed a mod about a guy in his area that is trying to sell me some gear. I have another one trying to sell me some viagra powder, if you can belive that. What does he know about me and my sex life that I am missing?

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BigPapaPump
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posted August 09, 2000 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigPapaPump   Click Here to Email BigPapaPump     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39254017
Frakel...the ug is one of them.

I'm really just thinking of alot of guys in general that have been busted over the years. They all had one thing in common, they were big names, endorsed alot of sources, got some free gear....etc.

Now they're gone. I guess that is why I never give out any names.

BPP

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BiffBoom
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posted August 09, 2000 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BiffBoom   Click Here to Email BiffBoom     Edit/Delete Message
I can name two really good bro's from Anabolex who took it hard in the last month.

I guess they should learn a lesson about publicly naming people.

There's no doubt in my mind that ALL the boards are watched and the DEA is trying to uncover names.

I can't tell you how many people mail me asking for gear or asking for names...and I've never claimed to be a dealer. AND I'M NOT.

Things are really scary sometimes.

I wish big brother would just leave me alone and let me grow...and read about moe's amazon forest.

I was wondering the other day...ever think that maybe a scammer like excellentboy could just be ratting on people? That would get rid of the legit and let people like him and Alberto scam more. Crazy...or is it?

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bb4424
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posted August 09, 2000 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bb4424   Click Here to Email bb4424     Edit/Delete Message
everyone be real careful...keep a tight lid on a anything that can get anyone in trouble...i have several emails as well from strangers...be real careful and smart.

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eastarr
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posted August 09, 2000 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eastarr   Click Here to Email eastarr     Edit/Delete Message
Bump it for a while.

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dahmer
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posted August 09, 2000 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dahmer   Click Here to Email dahmer     Edit/Delete Message
Bump this!! Do not give out sources to strangers. Many people have been e-mailing me asking for gear or if I knew a good source. Send them elsewhere.

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted August 09, 2000 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
BPP,

I have gotten similar emails. I'm sure it's the same guys.

I will bump this until I grow old. This will be like the newbies post.

The bottom line is, AS are illegal in the US. So if you are after them, let common sense prevail.

Mods try to point bro's in the right direction, but sometimes we can't tell you what you need to hear. Don't take it personally. We are trying to help as much as possible.

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THE APE
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posted August 10, 2000 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for THE APE     Edit/Delete Message
Just wanted to say thank you for passing that on BPP.Can never be too careful fellas.

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gamer
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posted August 10, 2000 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gamer   Click Here to Email gamer     Edit/Delete Message
Great post and I'm with you completely. Be careful and don't give source names to people you don't know and trust as well.

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Francis Drake
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posted August 10, 2000 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Francis Drake   Click Here to Email Francis Drake     Edit/Delete Message
I have been reading this board for almost a year now, and this is probably one of the best threads I have seen yet. Elite is a great board, but it is not immune to DEA. Just be careful, people... If something seems at all suspicious, even a little bit, don't risk yourself or others. Unless you know the person personally, or trust them completely, DO NOT give out names of ANYONE..Its not worth it.. Even if it isn't the DEA, it could still be some newbie who doesn't know the difference between Anadrol and Andriol, and just wants to take a "shortcut". In my opinion, that is almost as bad as the DEA. Just be cautious bro's.. Peace.

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ryry
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posted August 10, 2000 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ryry   Click Here to Email ryry     Edit/Delete Message

this is exactly the type of stuff that gets me paranoid over the web. good post BPP

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Kakdiesel
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posted August 10, 2000 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kakdiesel   Click Here to Email Kakdiesel     Edit/Delete Message
I know i'm relatively a newbie but i've been reading the board for almost six months before i posted anything. I've had my fuck ups and newbie mistakes but what really gets me is that there are truly guys out there who need help in this area (seeking sources etc.) and these gov't run conspiracies make it even tougher for "new" guys to get their hands on some gear. I realize there must be a consistent paranoia, but also give some people the benefit of the doubt if they are being genuine and non-pushy and if they have a reliable referral. Just thought i'd throw my two cents in.

kakdiesel

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2Thick
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posted August 10, 2000 03:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
That is good advice, BPP.

I would like to add that if the source is not in the US then the DEA has no jurisdiction. Also, brothers who are not in the US do not have the same exact problem.

This is the main reason why I am wary of Domestic sources. It is just a little too close to home.

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charlie
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posted August 10, 2000 03:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie   Click Here to Email charlie     Edit/Delete Message
Music to my dealers ears 2THICK!

I would hate for someone just to give out my dealers name to anyone who asked!
That's fucking scary, PLEASE DONT DO THIS!

You can trust NO-ONE you have never met!
not 100%

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ZEUS
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posted August 10, 2000 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ZEUS   Click Here to Email ZEUS     Edit/Delete Message
Here's a twist. I had a guy email me asking for gear just the other day. Said he needed a quick source and I dont even sell the shit. I have never seen him on the board and erased it instantly without reply........
All this shit cant be coincidental!

ZEUS.....

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ironmaster
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posted August 10, 2000 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ironmaster   Click Here to Email ironmaster     Edit/Delete Message
Can you be more specific, BPP? Hell, if these people are what you say, then fuck em, name names. You could save a few brothers asses in the process. I get these types of emails all the time, too. Why not start list thread on the questionable individuals who prey on elite members. Keep them off this excellent board.

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Dexter
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posted August 10, 2000 04:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dexter   Click Here to Email Dexter     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71953041
BPP, thanks for looking out for your bro's man.

2Thick, I've always agreed with your assessment of domestic. But your post got me thinking.

Why is that the DEA are basically acting as soldiers (armed "advisors" humping the boonies in South America with their "hosts," searching out drugs)? Given that, wouldn't it be plausible that they could set up shop down south and act like a source, in cooperation with their colleagues in the U.S. (who do have jurisdiction)?

Dexter

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2Thick
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posted August 10, 2000 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
Dex,

That is possible, but very expensive so only the big fish would be fried.

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Vitaman
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posted August 10, 2000 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vitaman   Click Here to Email Vitaman     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 77744808
Bump this up. I too never reveal information that could come back to haunt me. It is hard to know who one is dealing with when it comes to the internet or e-mails.

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bbman
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posted August 10, 2000 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bbman   Click Here to Email bbman     Edit/Delete Message
Freedom is gone.

Now you guys have made me paranoid. Never have done any risky posting as far as I know. Have gotten emails from people that I don't know saying that they saw my name on this board. I don't respond to those, though. CAll it be lazy, but at the end of the day, when I check my email, I only respond to those I know becuase that is all I have time for.

This post makes me just wanna hang up from the internet all together.

I find it amazing that with all the shit out there, the goverment still seems to have enough money to waste patrolling the internet. There ought to be a law against surfing the net on the job.

Peace bros.

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cabexbx
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posted August 10, 2000 09:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cabexbx   Click Here to Email cabexbx     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP

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YellowD98
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posted August 10, 2000 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowD98     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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ThePitbull
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posted August 10, 2000 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThePitbull   Click Here to Email ThePitbull     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 75689837
Def. bump this one!

Good info.

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ralphe
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posted August 10, 2000 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ralphe   Click Here to Email ralphe     Edit/Delete Message
It is also election year and Gore can spout about how his guys have done so well in busting up the internet steroid rings.....Just my opinion......I don't buy or sell of know of anyone that does....and if I did you would have to kill me to find out............!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Later

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spooky
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posted August 10, 2000 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for spooky   Click Here to Email spooky     Edit/Delete Message
The worst thing is that here is us legit newbies trying to pickup legit info and worried that if we message a bro re: a source scince they've never heard of us will think we're FED's and not help a bro out ... -sigh-

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Yoda
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posted August 10, 2000 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yoda   Click Here to Email Yoda     Edit/Delete Message
This is one of the best threads to date, because we all get to comfortable from time to time and maybe aren't as careful as we should be. I see too many guys saying things like "packages arrived today" and "here's my current cycle", and I've been guilty of this myself. We should all use our heads and treat the boards as if there was no question they are being watched, and definately be very careful about who you respond to on e-mail. Besides the UG board, another board was recently closed down because the DEA is investigating it, even though the owner isn't from the USA, I guess its because the server is so it really is a small world. Lets all think before we post from now on!!!

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Kakdiesel
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posted August 10, 2000 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kakdiesel   Click Here to Email Kakdiesel     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah I'm with Spooky..if you read my post that was the same thing I was trying to say. Some of us are legit newbies who came to the board to learn before we try anything. Then after absorbing this great source of knowledge (mad props to everybody on here), the newbies want to pledge to this fraternity, but with all this DEA government shit, its like we're getting dung out(for those who are greek like me, you understand what i mean) before we can even start!Its very frustrating on my side of this because I am guilty of emailing some brothers on here for some "info" and now I feel bad that I have maybe caused some paranoia by my genuine interest. Some of you out there have been very helpful by giving me some info via email and I know this is dumb but I am very trusting and give those of you who have answered the benefit of the doubt. Just thought I'd let everybody see the other side of this situation and let people realize there are some of us who suffer from this as well from a different perspective. Anyways, keep up the good work guys and lets stay strong through this and say,"fuck da MAN" hahaa..

peace

Kakdiesel

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Beezers
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posted August 10, 2000 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beezers   Click Here to Email Beezers     Edit/Delete Message
Bump for awareness

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Slopain
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posted August 10, 2000 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71360584
bump for safety, only talk to those you trust, and question who you trust now. It aint legal!

Slopain

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DubSack
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posted August 10, 2000 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DubSack   Click Here to Email DubSack     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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YellowD98
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posted August 10, 2000 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowD98     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP

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ajc1977
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posted August 10, 2000 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ajc1977     Edit/Delete Message
That's sad but true. I'm seriously considering making a few changes, even though I don't mail order anything except clomid.

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shmucko
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posted August 10, 2000 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shmucko   Click Here to Email shmucko     Edit/Delete Message
Whenever someone emails me asking how to get stuff, they always sound very pathetic. I don't know if they are legitimately pathetic, but it is a similarity to all the requests. I just ignore and delete.

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animal B
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posted August 10, 2000 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for animal B   Click Here to Email animal B     Edit/Delete Message
well BPP,,if you could email me a name on that new s.american person,,maybe I could help out..find the truth anyway..being I am down here...did you say they are posting as a south american sourse, but not from there..thanks

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anibolism
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posted August 10, 2000 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anibolism   Click Here to Email anibolism     Edit/Delete Message
Plain and simple,this board is for information,not sources.The more some "great sources" name is thrown out, the more likely it is that he will get busted.....

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5setsofsix
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posted August 10, 2000 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 5setsofsix   Click Here to Email 5setsofsix     Edit/Delete Message
The way some sources advertise and post on other boards I'm suprised there aren't more people busted. Some use obvious code words like "hunting trip was successful, packages will be mailed shortly", and these posts are by what I assume are domestic sources. How somebody (domestic source) would be foolish enough to have money mailed to them is beyond me. It doesnt matter if they do use a PO Box, how difficult would it be for the Feds to stake it out and bust them. These guys (domestic sources) are really reckless to take chances like that. Its a matter of time before they go down and if they keep any kind of record of their customers, guess who else will get a visit.

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Doc Ponch
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posted August 10, 2000 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doc Ponch   Click Here to Email Doc Ponch     Edit/Delete Message
Lately, I've been hearing on the news about all the gov't programs which monitor the internet, cell phone transmissions, etc. I believe that it's always best to be very careful and keep a low profile, whether it's on the board, on your phone, or even in your gym. You NEVER know who may be watching you. BUMP

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chestyII
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posted August 10, 2000 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chestyII   Click Here to Email chestyII     Edit/Delete Message
I would agree to be very careful. I would like to point out as I did earlier, that any crime committed against the US such as the importation, sale, etc of illegal drugs gives the DEA,FBI, etc juricsdiction. They exercise this by performing joint operations with the local law. It is like the sheriff's dept in once county, working with the city police located in a different county. While, the city police may not want the suspect, the Sheriff's dept does and since the SO cannot just waltz into another jurisdiction, it performs a joint op with the local (in this case city police)

That is how we got Noreaga (sp) He committed crimes against the US, we drew up a warrant for his arrest, hooked up with the local law and nabbed his ass.

If I were the dea and wanted you guys, I would just become another poster on this or any board and start collecting info. I would use a personal pc, local ip provider, such as earthlink, well you get the idea. The gov't is not stupid enough to use their own server's and computer's.

chesty

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greenhouse
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posted August 10, 2000 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for greenhouse   Click Here to Email greenhouse     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 43682495
I would not mind keeping this one at the top, thanks BPP. Sure is nice to back to the boards for a day or so, before I leave again.

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BigPapaPump
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posted August 10, 2000 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigPapaPump   Click Here to Email BigPapaPump     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39254017
2thick, you're right...almost. I think it would be very easy for some fat DEA guy to set up a site and claim that he's in a foreign country. Most all sources want their money via WU now, in that respect it makes no difference where the funds are picked up from. The law could set up a front in say Thailand, when in reality they could be sitting in L.A.

There are old and true sources out there, newbies don't panic. Just be careful.

Animal B...I'll have to see if I can retreive that guys msgs from my trash bin. Don't rememebr much about him other thatn the fact that his name was very close to that of another good source.

BPP

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Simon
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posted August 10, 2000 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Simon   Click Here to Email Simon     Edit/Delete Message
Bump this one, Great info.

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westcoastrider
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posted August 10, 2000 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for westcoastrider   Click Here to Email westcoastrider     Edit/Delete Message
If your going to deal with someone you have never work with befor thin take my advice.
on the first deal make sure you trade some kind of gear. You see DEA can not break the law to bust you. And if your sorce will not trade thin I would not do business with him. My friend got off the hook for just this reason. At one time in the sting he traded gear with an undercover cop. His case didn't even go to court the DEA drop it when he heard about it.

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chestyII
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posted August 10, 2000 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chestyII   Click Here to Email chestyII     Edit/Delete Message
I wonder what else took place. You see trading gear is no more illegal than selling it or buying it.

If they sell they can get you for possesion, and purchasing an illegal substance and maybe possesion with intent to sell if the suspect buys enough product.

If they buy, then the new charge of possession with intent to sell is added, plus trafikking, and being considered a dealer. If it occurs within 1000 yards of a school, another charge is added.

If they want to get a dealer, they will establish a friendship or trust with the intended target. If that means trading so be it.

If they trade they just put the traded gear in evidence. Undercover agents not only sell, but they buy.

The only way out is if the suspect can prove entrapment. Ie he/she was coerced into doing something that they would not normally do.

chesty

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Kakdiesel
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posted August 10, 2000 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kakdiesel   Click Here to Email Kakdiesel     Edit/Delete Message
Damn brothers, this is a great message board and an especially great post. I'm a newbie and I'm learning a shit load from you guys. And thanks for the reassurance Big papa pump ("There are old and true sources out there, newbies don't panic. Just be careful") By the way, I've emailed a few of you MODS and havent heard any replies..its kinda important and I need your help. Please respond and I know I didnt ask a stupid newbie question. I worded it very carefully. Thanks

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el cubano
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posted August 10, 2000 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for el cubano   Click Here to Email el cubano     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 61265596
BPP, one thing I don't understand is that you say that moderators are being busted? I don't understand how a mod can be busted unless he's selling? I mean even if he recommends a source which may make his an accessory, but it would be too expensive and a waste of time to bust a source in Ca and his ref in Ma, ya know! Besides the mod's case, if he has a decent lawyer, would get thrown out of court!

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NeedTheBurn
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posted August 10, 2000 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeedTheBurn     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP!

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Slopain
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posted August 10, 2000 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71360584
A buddy of mine was busted for introducing two people. He had no idea they were dealers, he got popped for conspiracy for something. If you hook up two people knowing what they do is illegal, then they could say you conspired in the crime. They dont prosucute that much, unless they are trying to get you to squeal on someone and you don't then they threaten conspiracy.

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Kid Lightin
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posted August 10, 2000 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kid Lightin   Click Here to Email Kid Lightin     Edit/Delete Message
Bump

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@LRG
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posted August 10, 2000 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for @LRG   Click Here to Email @LRG     Edit/Delete Message
good post, theres been way too many people lately just boldly asking for sources on the board, they need to be deleted immediately, educate yourself here dont be ignorant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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posted August 10, 2000 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quenepo   Click Here to Email quenepo     Edit/Delete Message
Bump,good info,but answer cubano post.

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Monster
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posted August 10, 2000 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Monster   Click Here to Email Monster     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 35077339
In a nut shell, this is why its so important to have source and source related post deleted IMMEDIATLY! If anyone happens onto this board and sees all kinds of source posts, they are gonna flag it.
But as we both know, there are tons of boards with source posting, so they wouldnt waste time laying in waiting on a board that is only discussing gear when they have other easier pickings to choose from.
Lets keep this board clean and only a discussion group and we'll be alright.

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ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT WAYS TO DO THIS IS TO NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT REPLY TO A SOURCE POST!!!!!!!! NOT EVEN TO SAY "MODS REMOVE THIS", OR "FUCK YOU MAN", OR ANYTHING. THAT ONLY BUMPS IT TO THE TOP WHERE IT ATTRACTS MORE ATTENTION. E-MAIL A MOD OR SOMETHING AND LET IT FADE AWAY IN THE MEAN TIME!!!! A SOURCE POST SHOULD HAVE ZERO REPLIES!!!!!
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glazed_donutz
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posted August 10, 2000 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glazed_donutz   Click Here to Email glazed_donutz     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 52939896
great thread now fellow bros just because i choose to use the feds favorite snack in my username does not mean i am one of them hehehehe!!!

pappa thanks for the insight

to the top we goooooooo!!!

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bgriff
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posted August 10, 2000 08:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bgriff   Click Here to Email bgriff     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 58153208
Bump thanx bro!!!

A bunch of good info here!!!

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2Thick
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posted August 10, 2000 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
Cubano,

I believe that he mentions that those Mods were either with the source or helped them with their business. Basically they were in the spotlight and attracted a lot of attention (i.e. Hulkster, who is still at large).

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Monster
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posted August 10, 2000 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Monster   Click Here to Email Monster     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 35077339
Damn, are you saying there was another bust at U.G.?????
Thats the second one I remember in a short period of time... too much source activity goes on there. I love the guys, but damn... learn from your mistakes.

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X-Man
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posted August 10, 2000 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for X-Man   Click Here to Email X-Man     Edit/Delete Message
I gotten a few very persistent e-mails too asking for sources. I just ignored them as well.

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Mojo
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posted August 10, 2000 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mojo   Click Here to Email Mojo     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 76848862
Bump it again! Great post.

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N-V-R-2BIG
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posted August 10, 2000 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for N-V-R-2BIG   Click Here to Email N-V-R-2BIG     Edit/Delete Message
NAME SOME NAMES GUYS!!! WE WANT TO KNOW WHO THESE FUCKERS ARE SO LET EVERYONE KNOW. LET EVERYONE KNOW WHO NOT TO FUCK WITH---EMBARRASS THEIR ASSES AND THEN THEY WILL BE EXPOSED AND LEAVE (EVENTUALLY)

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tbigg82
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posted August 11, 2000 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tbigg82   Click Here to Email tbigg82     Edit/Delete Message
big ol bump

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Starting Over
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posted August 11, 2000 01:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starting Over   Click Here to Email Starting Over     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 37435023
For what it's worth, this newbie is EXTREMELY thankful to all you mods, pros, and assorted novices for offering advice, suggestions, and info in general, solicited and unsolicited. The feds will always be around, we just have to do our best to help one another all we can. I'm not sure how to tell if a newbie is really a newbie and not a fed, but I'm glad this board is here to at least make the process a little easier. If we all contribute, maybe we can make a difference for the informed adults who chose to try to improve their personal situations, armed with the combined knowledge and experience of all of us.

Damn, that's long-winded. Did that make sense?

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evissam
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posted August 11, 2000 02:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for evissam   Click Here to Email evissam     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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GRENDEL
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posted August 11, 2000 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GRENDEL     Edit/Delete Message
DAMN THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Golias
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posted August 12, 2000 01:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Golias   Click Here to Email Golias     Edit/Delete Message
bump...good post.

Cuban, federal drug conspiracy laws are awfully broad in what is considered conspiracy. Even if you don't know someone, or haven't had direct contact with them, the law may still deem you to have conspired with them. So a mod who serves only as a reference, or source of introduction, could conceivably be criminally liable under drug conspiracy laws (and conspiracy violations carry the same penalties as direct violations). That said, it's unlikely that anyone would be targeted for prosecution just because they're serving as a reference.

The big concern with giving out a source is that,if you've had any direct contact with the source, the feds can trace it back to you. THe way they investigate child porn or narcotics is that they bust one person, who makes a deal and rats on his source. The feds then bust the source who rats out his source and anyone else he's sold or distributed illegal material to. The feds then track those people down, and the cycle continues. The difference in jail time for those who talk and those who don't is amazing--so everyone talks. The point being that if you give someone you don't trust the name of a source you have used, you increase your own chances of being busted. The good thing is that law enforcement pursuit of steroid users is not nearly as robust as that for narcotics or illegal pornography. But if that's changing, you should be aware of their methods.

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Primo_man
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posted August 12, 2000 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Primo_man   Click Here to Email Primo_man     Edit/Delete Message
Bump for everyone to read!!!!! Don't let those government pigs get you!!!!

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superkutt
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posted August 13, 2000 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for superkutt   Click Here to Email superkutt     Edit/Delete Message
thanks for the tip BPP. this is a perfect example of how to watch out for our common interest. power to those who pump iron!

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joe812
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posted August 13, 2000 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for joe812   Click Here to Email joe812     Edit/Delete Message
Just say no, bump

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Stillhere
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posted August 13, 2000 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stillhere   Click Here to Email Stillhere     Edit/Delete Message
Hey stick together gentlemen.
Why dont they go off and get the guys that are running around with the fucking chainsaws in the fucking streets?
That would be too hard, and it might be a bit DANGEROUS!!
All we want to do is grow.
They will never understand that?!

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LEGEND
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posted August 13, 2000 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEGEND     Edit/Delete Message
this is supposed to be an information board, not a source board anyway. delete all source posts, and maybe some bro's should learn to word their questions a little differently. don't openly admit that you taking gear, don't say you just received your gear. just try to be a little more discreet thats all. and i hate to be the one to bring bad news but it is obvious now that we are being watched on this board. too many guys from the board received suspitious emails, thats no coincidence bro's, thats hard core facts. so lets use the board for what it was intended for. lets help to educate those that need help, lets flame those that need to be flammed(hehe) and lets leave any and all source questions, whether asking or offering off this board!

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LEGEND
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posted August 13, 2000 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEGEND     Edit/Delete Message
i'm bumping this up again. this is probably one of the best post i've read and i think everyone here should.everybody myself included has got to be more discreet, the world isn't ready for us yet.

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