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dballistic
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 49)
posted August 09, 2000 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dballistic   Click Here to Email dballistic     Edit/Delete Message
I'm positive that there are a large number of newbies that are currently reading this forum to find out the fastest way to get big using juice. Problem is that a lot of you haven't given yourselves the time to grow naturally. I just wanted to make a suggestion, based on my own experiences that may help some of you out there. I've been seeing a lot of people becoming gearheads before they give themselves a chance at getting big naturally. A lot of guys end up jucing to early, without enough natural training experience, and then wonder why they didn't get as big as they expected.

If you eat like a monster, train hard and heavy, and get enough sleep -- you will still grow fairly well without the use of any gear. If your not sure that your ready for it, its not your time yet. Set a goal, and when you find that you've reach a permanent plateau due to your genetics, then its time for the juice.

Adding synthetic hormones to your body isn't quite the best thing your doing to yourself in terms of health, but don't take me wrong -- I'm not against it. I think that with the proper education, you can use it as a tool to overcome your natural limitations -- but don't use it as a "quick and easy" scam to cheat or short-cut your way to the top. It just doesn't work that way and you will probably end up dissapointed. There's a lot of experienced people on here that will agree with me on this, and I'm sure some will disagree as well. But its just my opinion that I want to share, and hopefully aid some of you in making wiser decisions.

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LEGEND
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posted August 09, 2000 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEGEND     Edit/Delete Message
i will bump this mother every day if i have to until every newbie and some not so newbies read it, well said bro!!!!!

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Dutch
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posted August 09, 2000 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dutch     Edit/Delete Message
agreed !!

Dutch

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DESTRO
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted August 09, 2000 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DESTRO     Edit/Delete Message
Also- no one's first cycle should be a stack.
A lion does not kill and animal -take one bite and from that day on kill two animals taking just one bite of each of those. Exaust the potetial of every resource before moving on to the next level.This is simply logic and common sense.

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BigJay81
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posted August 09, 2000 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigJay81   Click Here to Email BigJay81     Edit/Delete Message
I hope newbie doesn't equal teen in your head. This was intended for people just starting out am I correct?

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Vitaman
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posted August 09, 2000 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vitaman   Click Here to Email Vitaman     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 77744808
I will bump this up

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Twisted_Steel
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posted August 09, 2000 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twisted_Steel   Click Here to Email Twisted_Steel     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 754174
Ahhh, my children are multiplying in numbers.

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Pharm Animal
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted August 09, 2000 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pharm Animal   Click Here to Email Pharm Animal     Edit/Delete Message
BUMPETY-BUMP BUMP.....
i also totally agree with this post, but how many of us experienced bodybuilders do not start cycles optimally after taking an off period? i would say more than half. ideally, i would start a cycle after consistent gymtime for at least 1 month, busting it up in the gym AND at the dinner table. You just can decide to start gear after slacking in the gym for a period of weeks...that would not be optimal. i know i have been off of consistent training for 2 months now, i have some finaplix, and it's TEMPTING as HELL!!! maybe i'll find time to hit the gym tonight....nah....i gotta go clubbin HAHA

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dballistic
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted August 10, 2000 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dballistic   Click Here to Email dballistic     Edit/Delete Message
Pharm animal,

I'm not referring much to off-time as much as the general public (any age) that believe that jumping on the steroid bandwagon can get them into the pro status without much effort on their part, or without a solid natural foundation. Its not worth making your health suffer, when you can just take your time and be patient for something that can be accomplished naturally through discipline.

"You should really have a excellent paintjob before you get your car detailed, or you just wont be happy"

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thermo
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted August 10, 2000 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thermo     Edit/Delete Message
i agree with the post everyones lookin for an easy way , but one thing i cant agre with is that i know a couple people who have stacked for there first cycle and turned out good, instead of using sust only they threw in a little deca ,i dont seee anything wrong with that, i was even considering it

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Twiggy
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted August 10, 2000 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twiggy   Click Here to Email Twiggy     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with you guys...

I guess I still fall under the "newbie" category... I'm 20 yrs old and have only 2 solid years of training under my belt.

I've put on a solid 30 lbs of muscle in that time frame. (gone from 180 to 210 at 6'1" with about 12-13% bodyfat) But, in the past few months it's become painfully obvious to me that I'm not quite doing everything I can in terms of diet and training. Don't get me wrong, I bust my ass in the gym and at the table, but the more I learn and apply, the more I discover I don't know. I guess it's like that in whatever subject you choose to study...

I want to be quite a bit closer to my natural limit before cycling... I want to be sure that I give my natural training 100% effort, and "earn" my first cycle, so to speak. Still, the temptation is definitely there... especially since I started hanging out on this board and learning about AS.

The more I know, the more tempting it is.

Oh well, if and when I decide to cycle, I'll be doing it right.

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Pharm Animal
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posted August 10, 2000 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pharm Animal   Click Here to Email Pharm Animal     Edit/Delete Message
Dballistic...
thanks, note taken....i am probably just trying to convince myself to start a program before even mixing up my finaplix...lord knows i'm psychologically, but not physiologically, ready to use again!

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kram696969
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posted August 11, 2000 01:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kram696969   Click Here to Email kram696969     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 15497701
up it goes

kram-mark
just do'in my best...

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Recoome
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posted August 11, 2000 02:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Recoome   Click Here to Email Recoome     Edit/Delete Message
Who in reality has ever reached their absolute genetic limitations? Honestly, was there ever a time you couldn't get just a few pounds stronger? All this 'you only need two years before you juice' is bullshit...

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ChefRski
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posted August 11, 2000 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChefRski   Click Here to Email ChefRski     Edit/Delete Message
Good post for all the little juice bottles out there.


Chef

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BigMike
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted August 11, 2000 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigMike   Click Here to Email BigMike     Edit/Delete Message
I have been reading posts and doing research for the last few months. I also have been training and eating good for 4 years steady. I am yet to do any type of cycle and am greatful that this board exists because without it I would have made some big mistakes when it comes to taking things to the next level.

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jersey boy
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posted August 11, 2000 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey boy   Click Here to Email jersey boy     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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Retabolil
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posted August 11, 2000 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Retabolil   Click Here to Email Retabolil     Edit/Delete Message
I`m agree with dballistic. Newbies must grow naturally until muscle growth stops, when it`s time to juice, and results wiil be much better! If i could turn the time....

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susthead
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posted August 11, 2000 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for susthead   Click Here to Email susthead     Edit/Delete Message
good post yup some guys do get on the gear after about 6 weeks training train for at least 2 yrs natural i would say as thats what i did.

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DubSack
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted August 11, 2000 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DubSack   Click Here to Email DubSack     Edit/Delete Message
ill bump this!......... good info for any newbie

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Swollen
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posted August 11, 2000 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swollen   Click Here to Email Swollen     Edit/Delete Message
What your saying is great and logiacl but I can't see anyone following it. If you had access to the fountain of youth or better yet, Jennifer Lopez's sweet ass, would you not go because it isn't fair or you haven't earned it? I would.

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-Lunatic
(The guy who injected Anabolic Steroids in the right side of his sphincter)

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