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 is it possible for protien to turn to glucose?
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nobu Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 183) |
posted August 09, 2000 02:15 PM
  
if you eat alot of protein compared to carbs and fat, will you protein intake be converted to glucose? im thinkimg this is really bad right? this might have happened to me because ive been away at a cottage for 2 weeks and could not really eat anything but tuna and protein shakes, multivitamins,chicken and the odd ruffage. that means my protein intake was sky high compared to my carb and fat. did i fuck myself up by eating like this for 2 weeks? is my protein intake turning into glucose? my gains have slowed down since my trip, so im reall worried that this could have happend, is this possible? if so, how can it be fixed? please help me everyone. nobu IP: Logged |
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JUICESEEKER Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 379) |
posted August 09, 2000 02:22 PM
FROM MY OWN PERSONAL RESEARCH ON NUTRITION. PROTEIN IS ONLY CONVERTED TO GLUCOSE WHEN THE BODY GOES THROUGH KETOSIS. WHICH IS WHEN YOUR BODY IS STAVING AND YOU STARTS EATING AWAY AT YOU MUSCLES. DURING KETOSIS, THE BODY CONVERTS PROTEIN TO GLUCOSE FOR ENERGY. MY $.02 IP: Logged |
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nobu Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 183) |
posted August 09, 2000 02:31 PM
thankyou juicekeeper, i feel a little better, anybody else? IP: Logged |
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Buffed_The_Magic_Dragon Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 17) |
posted August 09, 2000 02:40 PM
Actually several amino acids can be turned into glucose by a process called gluconeogenesis. This only happens in a few instances, including: 1) Being in ketosis (-30-50g carbs/day) IP: Logged |
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Doc Ponch Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 103) |
posted August 09, 2000 03:28 PM
Unfortunately, I don't think that those responses are correct, or entirely correct. Amino acids can be turned into glycogen. This occurs when the body is using carbs for energy, but the body's glycogen stores have been depleted and there are no carbs (really sugars, as carbs are converted to glucose, which is a sugar) available. Unfortunately, one of the first sources of amino acids to be tapped is skeletal muscle. This is much different than a ketogenic state, where fats are the primary source of energy. During ketosis, fats are first converted into ketone bodies, then eventually to ATP (a very simplified explanation). If you eat too much protein and not enough fat during a ketogenic diet, you can knock yourself out of ketosis due to amino acid conversion to glycogen. One reason why low calorie diets which include carbs make you so prone to muscle loss is because of low glycogen levels, and therefore, amino acid conversion and this is why large amounts of protein and selected anabolics are needed/can be used during cutting diets to help counteract the muscle loss. This is also why ketogenic diets typically don't produce as much muscle wasting, as most people have plenty of fat stores to provide a constant source of energy. Once all fat stores are gone, then the body would turn to amino acids for energy. Any time that your body is using carbs (sugar) for energy and you run low on glycogen stores, the body will dramatically increase the conversion of amino acids to glycogen. A classic case is during long endurance events, unless you are constantly supplying the body with a source of energy, typically carb drinks and other sugar sources. Protein breakdown is especially severe after you've "hit the wall" and have depleted almost all the body's glycogen. It could be that you just lost some water during your high protein binge. High carbs make most people hold water. You may look a little tighter right now. Also, since you were eating low carbs, your muscle glycogen stores would be pretty low right now, so you'd feel and look very flat and your strength and energy levels would also be reduced. Don't fret, however. I don't know if you're on a cycle right now or not, but either way, it's not going to mess you up that much. Just start eating better. The human body is an incredibly adaptable organism. Is good to shock it every once in a while, whether you're talking about diets or workout routines. The Doctor [This message has been edited by Doc Ponch (edited August 09, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Bchemist Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 172) |
posted August 09, 2000 06:09 PM
Basically what is happening is that your enzymes are taking amino acids in protein, chopping off the amine group and the group that makes the amino acid unique. What you have left is two carbons. Then your body uses other enzymes to link three of these two-carbon entites together. You now have glucose. The reverse order gives us the non-essential amino acids. If the body doesn't need glucose, the chains will be elongated further and now you have fat. So don't think you can get away with eating 300 grams of protein per day and not have some of that stored as fat. I get really upset when people tell me they just "shit out" any extra protein! IP: Logged |
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nobu Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 183) |
posted August 10, 2000 12:02 PM
Doc Ponch, Dchemist; holy shit are you guys medical graduates? you guys really know your shit! thankyou all for your info and experiences i am much more educated about this situation now. this board kicks ass! IP: Logged |
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