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 takin t-3 while bulkin
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ripped to shreads2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 231) |
posted August 09, 2000 09:29 AM
  
i decided from now on iam going to be takin t-3 with my bulkin cycles also since there is a good benefit cause of enhanced protein synthesis fat burnning and so forth only plan on takin for eight weeks and it will go as follows week mcg's a day 1 25mcg 2 50mcg 3 75mcg 4 100mcg 5 100mcg 6 75mcg 7 50mcg 8 25mcg i will be also taking these as as follows enanthate propionate ref-b
now here is the question i have hcg, but latly clomid falls to my favor, should i use the clomid eod since day one or at week 10-12 and i also have this rx medicine for liver restoration that i will take since week 10 thru 14, unfortinatly cant think of the name of it but it is prescribet to patients who recive long term medical treatment and need it cause theyr liver gets runned down, like people on test therapy and so on.
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ripped to shreads2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 231) |
posted August 09, 2000 09:58 AM
bumpin it up IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 792) |
posted August 09, 2000 10:02 AM
Yeah bump this for someone who has tried it, I know when taking gh it is beneficial, bump for more info ------------------ IP: Logged |
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ripped to shreads2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 231) |
posted August 09, 2000 11:06 AM
anyone fellas IP: Logged |
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ripped to shreads2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 231) |
posted August 09, 2000 11:35 AM
bump once more IP: Logged |
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aahepp Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 375) |
posted August 09, 2000 11:44 AM
Ripped I think you are running the T-3 cycle a little too long there. Start with 25 and add 1 25 every four days. After you reach 4 start back dow nthe same way. Which would give you a 6 week cycle. But thats just me. Ture T-3 does have the good affects of the above mentioned but you alos have to take in acount the dead feeling you are going to be receiving from the T-3. It will make feel slugish and not real want to do much (or thats what I am getting from it). Hard to bulk up and build when your not really wanting to do much. I would suggest splitting them into 2 cycles. Bulk first without the T-3, build up then break it down with a cutting cycle with the T-3, and a mild AS to go along with it. IP: Logged |
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ripped to shreads2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 231) |
posted August 09, 2000 11:52 AM
thanx for the input, i did t-3 only cycle before and the only negative thing it made my throat dry lost shit load of weight along with muscle, what you are saying mekes lot of sense but recently i have been reeading that t-3 can be beneficial with bulking cycles too since it makes the as up to 30 % more potent due to the fast macronutrients procesing, and awoids gaining exes fat since i plan on doing 3 bulking cycles in a row well with 8 weeks inbetween and then before next summer hits due a cutting cycle i want to be leener you know , i eat clean but dont want to gain shit load of fat thanx IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 792) |
posted August 09, 2000 11:56 AM
I found the complete opposite on t3 during cutting cycle. I had a ton on energy, couldn't sleep either, no matter, still trained hard as hell, worked 50 plus hours etc. As far as losing muscle on t3, were you on gear bro? I lost none, in fact now that the cycle is over I look bigger. How low on cals and carbs did you go? The trick for me was to eat as much as possible, as long as the bf was still dropping. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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susthead Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 216) |
posted August 09, 2000 12:01 PM
the t3 cycle is too long do six weeks as follows you go up fast and come down slow 1 50mg day ive used this cycle myself before. IP: Logged |
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ripped to shreads2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 231) |
posted August 09, 2000 12:03 PM
i wasnt on gear i wasnt ewen working out i was in a period where i would just buy gear and store it until i was ready to use it and to work out so i decided to try the t-3 i did it for 3 weeks up the dosage ewery three days till 100 mcg then droping it, i was on no carb diet, shit all i ate was chicken wings, i droped like 17 pounds my muscles looked flat due to not having carbs, well now iam ready IP: Logged |
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ripped to shreads2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 231) |
posted August 09, 2000 12:05 PM
thimk so, i read that the longest is no more than eight weeks and no more than 100mcgs, iam gona dig that article back up, if no good ill due 6 weeks of t-3 while bulking. thanx IP: Logged |
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aahepp Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 375) |
posted August 09, 2000 12:08 PM
Sust What works for you might not work for other people. There is many reports that say start off with the 25mcg and increse slowly and come down slowly. Your cycle starts higher then the recommended 25 and your jump is by 50mcg. I think I will stick to the 25mcg jump. But if it works for then alright. Deca pople are diffrent. I am getting the do nothing feeling, granted I still train but not really up to it. If your losing muscle also then your calorie intake is too low. T-3 scavenages everything from your body. If there isn't enough intake it goes for fat, then for the muscle. I am on it now and using Tren and Pure test to help with the entire process. IP: Logged |
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ripped to shreads2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 231) |
posted August 09, 2000 12:21 PM
tren would be trembelone acetate right? IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 792) |
posted August 09, 2000 12:23 PM
The time period and max dosage on t3 should be as follows, no more than 100mcg and 6 weeks maximum. Then a minimum of 60 days in between t3 cycles. Ripped2 shreds, I think you know why you lost all kinds of muscle, gear is recommended if you are on t3, and to me to drop below 2000 cals and 125 carbs is foolish. Your metabolism is so jacked on the shit, you can easily process that many cals, lose plenty of bf, and retain muscle. You can even eat more than that on it. I kept the protein aroung 1.5-2 grams per pound of bodyweight, played with the carbs some days 150+ some days 100, depending on how i felt and how much I trained, the norm was 125 like I said. In addition the t3 needs to be pyramided up and down very slowly, I added a tab every 5 days, then stayed at 100mcg for 7 then back down dcreasing every 5 days until off. Worked great and I have no problems I have beeen off it a week now. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Decaman (edited August 09, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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ripped to shreads2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 231) |
posted August 09, 2000 12:26 PM
i agree with ya deca man, when i took it i was my own guinea pig just to see how it worked. ok so iam only gana due 6 weeks what is better 6 weeks from week 1 of juice or start at week 3 of juice with the t-3 IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 792) |
posted August 09, 2000 12:28 PM
Wait until the 3rd week, just be sure and be on gear while you are still on the t3. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 792) |
posted August 09, 2000 12:35 PM
You know something bro, something is telling me that you do not need to go so high on your t3 dosage for what you want to accomplish. I am almost positive I read somewhere that a lower dosage would suffice as you are trying to gain weight while doing this cycle no? I am gonna do some research and get back to you. In the meantime if anyone has any advice please chime in! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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WarLobo Moderator (Total posts: 1069) |
posted August 09, 2000 12:36 PM
I am ending a bulk cycle right now and have used T3 for the last seven weeks to drop some BF. Topped out at 200mg, everything going great. The only side was a slight headache after a week at 200mg. Held out for another 5 days at 200 and then started to tapered down. I taper T3 down 50% slower then I tapered up. Two week up, hold for two weeks (almost) and then back down for three. My next bulk cycle I will use a low level T3 running the entire length of the cycle. ------------------ Lobo IP: Logged |
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liltank Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 54) |
posted August 09, 2000 12:39 PM
yeah your dosages are a bit high, try 50mcg per day max for 8 weeks it will work better. here is a stac that worked well for me at oen time
50mcg cyctomel did this for 10 weeks IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 792) |
posted August 09, 2000 12:50 PM
Hey war lobo, how long did you run the bulk cycle for? And how far into it were you when you started the t3? One more question did you adjust or drop your calories and how many were you taking in? Well that is 2 questions but what the hell ------------------ IP: Logged |
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DREXX Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 524) |
posted August 09, 2000 02:15 PM
I want to run T3 in my next mass cycle and I will leave it in there for 6-8 weeks. I think 25mcg should be enough to speed up the protein synthesis. I am not using it to stay lean just for increased metabolism! IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 792) |
posted August 09, 2000 02:28 PM
I though I read that 25mcg would suffice for that purpose, I would assume it would regulate your bf a little, with the increased metabolism, surely keeping it at alower level than without it. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 637) |
posted August 09, 2000 02:31 PM
From what I know about t3 if you are using it to speed up protien synthesis you should take much lower dosages. I would say no more than 50mcgs and only go for about 6 weeks. If you go all the way up to 100mcgs you are gonna have a real hard time putting on muscle because your metabolism will be flying. Most likely you will start to get real cut up toward the end. Maybe this would work good if you ate like 7000 cal per day but I don't think many people can do this. Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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ColumboWeiser Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 216) |
posted August 09, 2000 02:39 PM
what do you guys think about...if I ran a twelve week cycle, start the t3 in the beginging of week 7? run it with the cycle deca man said to use...you know taper up to 100mcg then back down? or would you guys just run it at 25mcg for awhile, then up to 50mcg, then taper off over the twelve weeks? I'm taking sust primo deca dbol t3, and clomid at the end on my next cycle...thanks... ~ ------------------ :)Building a body made for sex.:) IP: Logged |
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ColumboWeiser Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 216) |
posted August 09, 2000 02:53 PM
I wanna bump this...very good info.... ------------------ :)Building a body made for sex.:) IP: Logged |
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WarLobo Moderator (Total posts: 1069) |
posted August 09, 2000 04:28 PM
I posted up my cycle some time ago. Basically it runs for 15 weeks. Dbol/deca/test. Then moves to deca/test. Then Deca/test/primo/T3 then Primo/T3. At the end with the T3 I try to keep the diet large with protein but try hard as hell to drop all breads and starch carbs. I've dropped a solid 5% and have kept the size for the most part. Some strength loss, but this could be in part to the decreasing level of test and such. I also figure a few pounds were water. As a whole I am very pleased with this "bulk" cycle. I hit three new "max" lifts - or lifts for reps, I don't much do single max lifts any more. Got about three more weeks on the primo and will finish the T3 in about 10 days. I like having a week or so of gear in me while I come back on line with my own thyroid and to make sure I preserve as much muscle as I can. T3 is very individual and I think 250 would be my limit. I know a few others that crank it up to 300+ I don't figure I could handle that dose. As far as the low level usage, again, 25 might work very well for some and 50 might be a better option. If I were to roll the dice I'd go with 25mg first. Just so we are on the level, I don't concider myself an expert on T3 - yet. Only used it a few times. But I did one hell of allot of reading and more than a few conversations with many many folks. Just figured I tell you what I decided to do and let you all make your own minds up. Am I pleased with this cycle? Hell yes. Enough to do it again. Always hated losing the strength when cutting, but this methode seems much better. I never have really been one to cut much, but I see my little lady getting that look in her eye when the shirt comes off... you know, the look where you are glad there are no utensils around for her to eat you up with. ------------------ Lobo [This message has been edited by WarLobo (edited August 09, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 792) |
posted August 09, 2000 04:38 PM
C.W. if you are comfortable with my cycle, you will get ripped on it, provided you do what you need to do (diet, etc.). I have read and been told by someone I believe to be extremely knowledgeable on the subject of t3, not to be on it for more than 5-6 weeks. You can get ripped in that time with that cycle(your bf can't be 25% at the start, you get my point)There is no need to stay on t3 for 12 weeks, I would be very nervous about fucking my thyroid up if I were to do that. I would not if I were you. My cycle is to for cuttting , not for bulking, entirely different way to take t3. I like your thinking, def do it that way start the primo with the t3 cycle and run it the last 5 weeks . If you can get some winny too even better. ------------------ DECA-IT'S WHAT'S FOR DINNER [This message has been edited by Decaman (edited August 09, 2000).] [This message has been edited by Decaman (edited August 09, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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ColumboWeiser Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 216) |
posted August 10, 2000 12:52 PM
thanks for the info decaman...I'll listen to your advice...hey warlobo...could you email me or post that cycle....thanks.... ------------------ :)Building a body made for sex.:) IP: Logged |
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ripped to shreads2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 231) |
posted August 10, 2000 02:33 PM
thanx bros that makes a lot of sence ill keep the dosage low on the bulkin cycles 25mcg a day, then when its time to cut up ill take it with the higher dosages later IP: Logged |
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WarLobo Moderator (Total posts: 1069) |
posted August 10, 2000 03:43 PM
Here is a break down of my cycle as it happened (a few things got changed) WK1 & WK4: 500mg sust, 250mg cyp, 400mg deca, 50mg dbol/day. T3: I didn�t make the whole time on at the 200mg range, just have to see how you hold out at that does. This also left me with one week with primo only � no T3. I�ve maintained my muscle size, and in fact, since I have lost some gut, folks think I look bigger when, in fact, I have lost many pounds. Just this morning I could pull off my 36� while they were still buttoned. That shocked the little lady! But please do not take everything above as gospel, do some more checking and define what your goals are. I wanted to drop some fat from two big bulking cycles and did not want to give up the mass, I think I�ve gotten close to achieving that goal. (Much more fat came off than I would have thought.) But I am also waiting to see how it all goes when I come off the T3 and if it will be a success in the long run. This is key, don't you think?
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WarLobo Moderator (Total posts: 1069) |
posted August 10, 2000 03:56 PM
An Oh-by-the-way. I am going in to see the doc three weeks after the last primo shot for a complete blood workup. Course I'm just saying I'm past due for a check-up blah blah blah.... This is one good thread with many good comments. I know T3 really can put the fear of God into some folks, just realize that it is a tool like anything else we use. And like any tool, it serves a usefull purpose. But use it foolishly and watch you hard earned muscle melt away. ------------------ Lobo IP: Logged |
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