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Author Topic:   ref dosages vs pink thai d-bol
gamer
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posted August 09, 2000 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gamer   Click Here to Email gamer     Edit/Delete Message
Guys those of you who have used both how would you equate their dosing. I bought ref but now have whole bunch of thai's which will be much more convenient for taking at work. I was going to use ref like this:
62.5mg week 1 (2 1/2 cc)
62.5
62.5
50
50
25
This is merely a small piece of my cycle which i will post for critique later. Those that have used both would you say that around 50mg of the thai's would be about equal in effect as the 62.5 mg of ref. i know the tabs are supposed to pack a "little" more punch than the ref which is why I ask. Any and all help is appreciated.

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Pharm Animal
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posted August 09, 2000 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pharm Animal   Click Here to Email Pharm Animal     Edit/Delete Message
62.5??? That's a high dose. For me, I like to use 1.5cc per day...that would be 37.5mg. I have always liked the ref-b better than the pinks. Maybe b/c it taste so good. lol But seriously, ref-b somehow gives me more energy if I take it before I lift...probably b/c it has vit B-12. Hope this helps.

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BigJay81
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posted August 09, 2000 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigJay81   Click Here to Email BigJay81     Edit/Delete Message
Go with Animals advice it sounds good

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whiteboy
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posted August 09, 2000 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiteboy     Edit/Delete Message
The first guy was right, I think the pinkies pack much more than ref-b. In my opinion 75mg ref = 50mg dbol. I think your doses look good!

-whiteboy

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Slopain
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posted August 09, 2000 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71360584
Thats not an incredibly high dose at all. I am intersted in some more comparison between ref and thai dbols. So I will bump.

Slopain

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the truth
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posted August 10, 2000 03:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the truth   Click Here to Email the truth     Edit/Delete Message
I like reforvit--I don't think it is significantly underdosed, if at all. You're also less likely to get fakes.

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gamer
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posted August 10, 2000 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gamer   Click Here to Email gamer     Edit/Delete Message
Come on guys I need more input here. I know the dose is high but this is not unheard of at all. (look at SSMAN doing 75mg of ref.) Bump it up!

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Unity66
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posted August 10, 2000 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unity66   Click Here to Email Unity66     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70960516
Gamer....i personally have never used more than 2ml of ref per day. I just bring a cc loaded in a syringe along with two 00 gelcaps and dose at work. If you cant do this, use your ref at home and dose accordingly with your thais while at work. You could use somethin like 1.5ml of ref and 4 thais per day.....this would allow you to dose yourself as you see fit.

Got your email......all is good

Unity66

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rippazoid
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posted August 10, 2000 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rippazoid   Click Here to Email rippazoid     Edit/Delete Message
what is your current weight and how much bodyfat are you carrying. i think dosages are related to ones personal amount of lean body mass.

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gamer
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posted August 10, 2000 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gamer   Click Here to Email gamer     Edit/Delete Message
I'm currently at 195lbs. at 5'11" with about 7% BF. Unity: good creative idea and one I might consider. Keep it coming, anyone with an opinion!

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rippazoid
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posted August 10, 2000 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rippazoid   Click Here to Email rippazoid     Edit/Delete Message
i would do 6 per day and 1 in the middle of the night when you get up to piss.( thats basically 7 per day) simple solution if that dosent work up the dosage.

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Pharm Animal
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posted August 10, 2000 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pharm Animal   Click Here to Email Pharm Animal     Edit/Delete Message
GAMER....
go ahead and take the 62.5 mg/day if you want....i just feel that it's not at all necessary...food/protein should be the thing bumped up, in my opinion, not the drug if you want a response to your post to justify using more, then here it is!

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Slopain
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posted August 10, 2000 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71360584
lol @ Pharm Animal! Yeah bro you got my ok on it too, well since we will be cycling together, I guess the more you do the more I do = the happier I am (within reason of course I won't pop em like m&m's

Slopain

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ironmaster
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posted August 10, 2000 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ironmaster   Click Here to Email ironmaster     Edit/Delete Message
I like rippazoid's thinking, here. I always have felt that body weight and age were important in determining dosages. Ref. is less potent per mg. than the good tabs, so I don't think your dose is out of line. What is your stack - this matters also.

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Pup'nIrn
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posted August 10, 2000 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pup'nIrn   Click Here to Email Pup'nIrn     Edit/Delete Message
I agree that is alot of ref. and don't think you need that much to do the job. The extra only increases sides. I would use 1.5cc/day at the top of my cycle and go down. Use with an anabolic eq or deca in 200-400mg/ week and they will work together for better results. I personally believe your diet and not overtraining (even on gear) is the most important overlooked thing.

Try injecting the cc into fruit like oranges to take to work. I had a guy suggest that on the board before and it works well to hide your use and tastes alot better too.

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Slopain
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posted August 10, 2000 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71360584
Heres a preview of my cycle (gamers is similiar only substitute EQ for my Deca and he will use Winny towards the end of the cycle while I will use it throughout)

I will post this better in a couple weeks for critique but basically:

SUS250..Winny...Deca...Thai/Ref
1gram...450.....500....Well you know from above

A host of anti estrogens (nolva/clomid/proviron maybe)

Some suppliments for hair (flutamide, proscar)

The cycle will run 10-12 weeks, the dbol will be completed by week 6.

This is basic I am still in the process of structuring the cycle. But that should help you guys with respect to what else will be in the stack. Thanks fellas!

Slopain

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gamer
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posted August 10, 2000 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gamer   Click Here to Email gamer     Edit/Delete Message
Guys just so you know I appreciate and respect all your oppinions and will consider all your input. I personally think that 45-50mg of d-bol will be tolerable considering the extra ancillary drugs included. I want to achieve my target size on this cycle so I won't have to keep bulking. I don't want to be too big just well muscled and shredded to the bone come next spring break. I will do a cutting cycle in February to lose the fat and get lean.

[This message has been edited by gamer (edited August 10, 2000).]

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