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  DO YOU NEED TO TAPER D-BOL WHEN USING ACCESSROIES LIKE CLOMID?

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Author Topic:   DO YOU NEED TO TAPER D-BOL WHEN USING ACCESSROIES LIKE CLOMID?
JUICESEEKER
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posted August 08, 2000 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JUICESEEKER   Click Here to Email JUICESEEKER     Edit/Delete Message
I NOTICED WHEN EVERYBODY USES D-BOL THEY TAPER. WHY TAPER WHEN YOU HAVE CLOMID?

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JUICESEEKER
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posted August 08, 2000 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JUICESEEKER   Click Here to Email JUICESEEKER     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP THIS!

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Bchemist
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posted August 08, 2000 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bchemist   Click Here to Email Bchemist     Edit/Delete Message
I really have a problem with this whole tapering of d-bol thing. We all know that your body starts to downgrade immediately after any foreign substance that causes a reaction is introduced. No matter what drug you take, whether it is ephedrine, sleeping pills, pain killers, clen, test, etc, eventually your body becomes efficient at making these compounds inert. PLUS the whole EOD of clomid theory to keep the nads working properly followed by ED for a week and 2 ED for another week when you finish your cycle. Plus even possibly the introduction of HCG to really get a kick at the end.

So with all that said, why not taper UP, starting at 30 mg and end at 40 mg for 5-6 weeks. Yes you are going to crash, but if you are taking clomid and/or HCG you will end up keeping most of the REAL muscle you gained minus the water and the strength that comes with it.

Here's the typical cycle I see:

40mg
40mg
30mg
30mg
20mg
15mg
15mg

It makes no sense. Sure the first two weeks look good, and maybe you'll even get an effect off the next two. But then I feel that you are just "maintaining" and further suppressing your natural test levels in the remaining weeks when your body starts to fight the extra hormone in the system. The key here is the further suppression by taking insignificant amounts (under 20mg). They say that the lower doses allow your body to reverse the suppression. But I don't think your natural levels have been suppressed that much after 4 weeks, especially if you have been diligently taking your extra clomid. Wow..I said more than I planned. Oh well juice...take it for what it's worth...

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aahthit
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posted August 08, 2000 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aahthit   Click Here to Email aahthit     Edit/Delete Message
I thought this made sense when he posted it last time. It holds true with other drugs, so why not with the d-bol? The longer you take anything, the greater your tolerance is. Notice how 1 ephedrine tab is good for a few days, then you need to bump it to 2 to get the same effect? Following that, if you don't take a break for a few days, you just get tired. Somebody with a education post a reply to this one.

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Bchemist
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posted August 08, 2000 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bchemist   Click Here to Email Bchemist     Edit/Delete Message
I bump my theory so I don't have to repeat this tomorrow for the next round

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Twisted_Steel
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posted August 08, 2000 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twisted_Steel   Click Here to Email Twisted_Steel     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 754174
Bchemist is one of the few members on here caught up to date. The idea of tapering is assinine. He explained it beautifully.

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BigGunSJm
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posted August 08, 2000 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigGunSJm   Click Here to Email BigGunSJm     Edit/Delete Message
After reading Bchemist's reply, IM ok with the tapering or not tapering just a matter of preference. This is my first cycle on D-bol and right now I have 200 tabs, but it sounds like IM going to need more tabs. Im also currently on Decca. My question is How many weeks do you have to use d-bol to be effective? Figure about 25-30mg a day.

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E2
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posted August 08, 2000 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
As long as you're taking adequate amounts of clomid there is no need to taper UNLESS you're on very large doses of gear ie 2000mg+ a week. Then tapering makes sense. For the dbol only, there is no reason to taper take your clomid eod and the post cycle regimine as well.

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