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pacificfreak
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posted August 08, 2000 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pacificfreak   Click Here to Email pacificfreak     Edit/Delete Message
ok bro's this is really buggin me i need to know if bridgeing is effective way to maintain pre-gains from previous cycle?
ALso what are common A.S. used for bridging?

just came of sust500 and deca400 cycle 1shot/5days .NOw i'm takin clens to cut is it advisable to stack that w/ EQ until next cycle?

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OH i thought u meant Juicing as in tropicana orange juice ...
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Decaman
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posted August 08, 2000 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Decaman   Click Here to Email Decaman     Edit/Delete Message
How soon are you starting the next cycle?

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pacificfreak
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posted August 08, 2000 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pacificfreak   Click Here to Email pacificfreak     Edit/Delete Message
aug 30th

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OH i thought u meant Juicing as in tropicana orange juice ...
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Krusher
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posted August 08, 2000 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krusher   Click Here to Email Krusher     Edit/Delete Message
I'm very interested in this as well. Here are my thoughts on this, after a bulking cycle (ie sust/deca/d-bol) why not use about 100mgs/week of primo or winny for 8 weeks then go clean (maybe some clen) for the next 4 weeks then hit your cycle hard ie 750+mgs of sust on top of deca and d-bol. It would be hard to drop bf after a cycle while still retaining your gains without a little juice. Would the next cycle be effective though? I think yes, you're going from 100mgs (with 4 weeks off) to over a gram but the cycle woould have to be heavily front loaded. If you went straight from your bridging dose to your cycle I believe the cycle wouldn't be as effective. These are just my opinions so take them with a grain of salt. I plan on experimenting with this in the future as I belive it could be the key to keeping your gains and making continued progress. Between cycles is a good time to drop bf but without bridging you could lose muscle on reduced calories. I'd like to hear some more opinions on this topic as well.

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Decaman
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posted August 08, 2000 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Decaman   Click Here to Email Decaman     Edit/Delete Message
Primobolan is one that comes to mind, i use deca at a low dosage. You want to try and use something that will allow your body to somewhat normalize, yet still maintain form the previous cycle. I guess you could use eq if that is all you have, i think primo would be a better choice. You guys are aware that being on and never copletely coming off is not the best idea in the world. I have also found clen to be somewhat effective for bridging, again i still say primo would be best.

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Krusher
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posted August 08, 2000 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krusher   Click Here to Email Krusher     Edit/Delete Message
I would agree with Decaman that primo would be the best choice.

In answer to your question, YES, bridging is effective in maintaining gains but the million dollar question is will your next cycle be nearly as effective as it should be???

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pacificfreak
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posted August 08, 2000 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pacificfreak   Click Here to Email pacificfreak     Edit/Delete Message
KRUSHER xcellent analogy.... will receptors be as fresh????? i don;t think they will either....

will EQ retain gains and not over saturate recpetors?

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OH i thought u meant Juicing as in tropicana orange juice ...
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BigBald-1
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posted August 08, 2000 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigBald-1   Click Here to Email BigBald-1     Edit/Delete Message
Bump. I'm curious too.

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gearseeker
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posted August 08, 2000 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gearseeker   Click Here to Email gearseeker     Edit/Delete Message
I do some long ass cycles. It does seem that the drugs become less effective the longer you are on them. But to defend bridging - Ive never acutally bridged. Ive always followed a bulking cycle with a cutting cycle for a total of 24 weeks. This year, if I bridge, Ill switch up every 6 weeks instead of 12. I think that might be the magic. A powerlifter I know does bulking cycles for 4 weeks then primo, deca, or eq for 4 weeks - all year. He is massive and cut and feels like he is constantly growing.

Most of the recent info indicates that the decrease in steroid effectiveness might not be actual receptor attenuation. Im not sure - but thats what Ive read.

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Bchemist
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posted August 08, 2000 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bchemist   Click Here to Email Bchemist     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know how many of you know Louie Simmons, but he is the owner of the West Side Barbell Club in Ohio....the Mecca of powerlifting. He said once in an interview that he has been on continuously for 25 years with no problems. The man is in his 50's and still benches 500+.

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Maverik
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posted August 08, 2000 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maverik   Click Here to Email Maverik     Edit/Delete Message
Seems to me that if you bridged you would probably keep more gains but the gear would become much less effective. And I would also think that when you finally quit using gear totally that you would crash hard as hell and lose alot of your gains. I guess that's just my opinion but I have always thought bridging was a bad idea. A good way to throw your body out of whack though! Peace...Mav

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decibel
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posted August 08, 2000 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for decibel     Edit/Delete Message
my experience with this..
i've always done only one heavy bulk cylce a year and then stayed clean the rest of the year - my results from this? i always loose what i gain.
my current trainer is telling me to stay on 200mg of deca year round (that it will not screw your body up) and just stack shit on top of that for bulking or cutting. this guy, by the way, is a national competitor and is huge. all the other massive people i know say pretty much the same thing and they say that if you absolutely want to come off the juice, not to do it for over four weeks. i just got the underground steroid handbook in the mail last night and duchaine also says that it is possible to stay on year round if you are training seriously and consistently.
i plan on doing it.
a lot of people will probably disagree..

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Hunter Thompson
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posted August 08, 2000 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hunter Thompson     Edit/Delete Message
I use insulin, although it is not very popular and it helps me not only retain, but gain. I only do 10 ius in the morning and 10 rigght before i work out. No problems

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Decaman
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posted August 08, 2000 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Decaman   Click Here to Email Decaman     Edit/Delete Message
You know what, I was thinking of going clean for 3 months, but more and more I am hearing it is a bad idea. I was gonna take the creatine route, now I am leaning towards bridging with deca, I have never come off for more than 4 or 5 weeks at a time, so it would have been a big gamble, although i still believe your next cycle would be that much more effective if you gave your receptors a chance to clean out. One other option , GH. Well now I am totally baffled, thank god I have a month to decide. Good thread here, anyone else got some good input?

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