posted August 07, 2000 06:09 PM            

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Hello there I have a friend that's training for only 6months. I keep telling him to train for at least a year and a half before he starts juicin but he won't listen to me! I don't want him to f**k himself up so what juice would be best for this ignorant fu**er! Will he be able to keep his gains when he comes off?

Please Help!!!!!!!!!!!

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posted August 07, 2000 06:11 PM            

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HOW OLD IS HE?

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posted August 07, 2000 06:12 PM            

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How about a huge smack across his face with the back of your hand and yell, "Wake up!"

Even a year and a half is too soon. Juice should be used to break through one's genetic potential when reached.

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posted August 07, 2000 06:14 PM            

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He's 22 and he's 6ft 175lbs 12% bodyfat!!!

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posted August 07, 2000 06:18 PM            

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Stupidity has a satute of limitations. Given his age, allow him to inject whatever he desires.

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posted August 07, 2000 06:18 PM            

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Popeye in a bottle, all the health risks with none of the long term gain.

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posted August 07, 2000 06:19 PM         

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If you can stall him long enough to get alot of feed back from these guys.
There's all kinds of reason why not to start juice when you start lifting-ONE you will be lifting a good bit more all of the sudden than your joints and ligaments are use to so there is more risk of injury and if you get a significant injury that makes you unable to lift or excercise a muscle group then you may lose gains and waste money or be disproportionate. AGAIN try to get as much info as possible for him- there are many others reasons that someone far more experienced than myself can explain -AND THIS IS THE PLACE TO FIND OUT-BELIEVE ME!

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posted August 07, 2000 06:22 PM            

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Well Bro, if he is that age he will do what he wants with or without your help, so I would help. Explain you don't approve and when and then suggest a low dosage/ low sides gear for him. Depending on what you have available I would put him on either Primo, Eq or deca.(in that order of choice) He will want the faster more aggressive gear but please remind him that just because its faster for gains doesn't make it better in the long run. Dig up as much info as you can so he can read and learn and then make a better decision. Email me if you need for info to let him read.
I always support someone's choice to use or not because I don't like others running my life but at least make the decision with some research behind it to back it up.

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posted August 07, 2000 06:25 PM            

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Thanks ALOT Guys!!!!!!!! I Think I'll give him a good beatdown maybe that will make him think twice!!!!!!! I doubt it though he's a stubborn bastard!!!!!

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posted August 07, 2000 06:27 PM            

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I'm pretty similar in age and size...I'm 6'1 190lbs...and I just started my first cycle last sunday...while I may not have yet reached my genetic potential...I busted my ass on and off since high school ended....and am up from the 165lbs I graduated at....my point is with a good diet and some hard training you bud could easily put on some more size before he decides to juice it...there is no "safe AS"...just responsible use...so I wouldn't jump into anything at this point...

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