posted August 07, 2000 03:12 AM            

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will be starting my first cycle or sust in a couple of weeks, will be doing 500 mg for the
ten week duration. just wanted to know if i should combine this with 200 mg of deca or with 25 to 30 mg of dbol? i know you taper down with the dbol and clomid is present and accounted for. i know that the sus will take a few weeks to kick in. im 5-10 about 190 looking to add about 15 to 20 pds over the ten weeks as well as improve strength. deadlifts are at 485, squats 405 for 4 (deep)
bench at 230 for 15. i did search the boards
when they came back up, but there was alot of
contadictory info. if anyone can help i would appreciate it. thank you.

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posted August 07, 2000 03:59 AM            

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BUMP! i cant sleep

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posted August 07, 2000 07:09 PM            

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i LIKE d-bol. You should pyramid your Sustenon levels..not one stagnant dose.

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posted August 07, 2000 07:20 PM            

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i'd go with the deca. the sus will give you what you want and the deca will help you keep you gains.

if you go the dbol route you'll loose most of your gains. sure the sus will help you to keep some of the gains but dbol is mostly water gains. it's good to kick start a cycle but i'd go with the deca.

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posted August 08, 2000 12:16 AM            

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bump one last time. i promise.

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posted August 08, 2000 12:18 AM            

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I'd probably go for the deca myself also. You already have the androgens with the test.

Daeo

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posted August 08, 2000 12:42 AM            

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Definitely go with the deca if you are intent on using one exclusively. This will give you an androgen and an anabolic in your cycle and will result in good gains and muscle quality. Bump it up to 400mg though as this is easily tolerated and will make you gains very good. If you threw in the the d-bol for just the first 4 weeks (tapering it out in the 5th)at your 25-30mg then your gains will kick off explosively and will outnumber the gains made without it. This is probably not necessary if you only want to gain 20 lbs. and this is your first cycle. The 400,g of deca will get you here on it's own. Good luck.

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