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Binderdundat
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted August 06, 2000 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Binderdundat   Click Here to Email Binderdundat     Edit/Delete Message
I wanted to know how many guys have kept all of their gains post cycle, what you were using, and what you did. I noticed personally that When I have done 8 weeks or more I had drastic losses afterwards (dbol, deca, sust) but used nothing after my cycle. Later I tried doing short four week cycles, and afterward went on an ECA stack and lost nothing, in fact I kept getting stronger in all lifts (while losing bodyfat). I know my natural levels of test were compromised because my testicles shrunk.I had a buddy use a 4 week dbol only cycle with the ECA stack at the end, and he had the same results. We both had great gains, and no losses. I understand what ECA does, but I am not sure if I kept everything because of that, or the fact that it was a short cycle, or both. I wanted to hear of others post cycle methods and their results.

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Binderdundat
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted August 06, 2000 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Binderdundat   Click Here to Email Binderdundat     Edit/Delete Message
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2Thick
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posted August 06, 2000 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
The shorter cycles reduce the amount of time that your natural test is suppressed and the ECA stack is moderately anti-catabolic. That is why you kept more of your gains.

You would have kept most of your gains after an 8 week cycle if you would have used Clomid and clen post-cycle.

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Binderdundat
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted August 07, 2000 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Binderdundat   Click Here to Email Binderdundat     Edit/Delete Message
I have never used clomid or clen. Ephedra is otc so it is always accesable. I agree with you on why I kept my gains, but that is not all I did. I actually got stronger after ending my cycle. Even though I lost weight (which is normal), over the next two months all my poundages for my major lifts went up a significant amount, without any crash.
When I did cycles without the ECA stack, afterwards I did notice a significant strength decrease, as expected.
Also I am not the only one that this has worked for. My training partner had the same experience.

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media
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted August 07, 2000 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for media   Click Here to Email media     Edit/Delete Message
Man, I used to have drastic losses after the cycle, but Clen realy helped me a lot. Since I use it afterwards, I manage to keep the most of the gains.Of course I use clomid during the cycle 50 mg/EOD, and after 100/100/50 mg. The reason why you got stronger after the 4 weeks cycle might be because of the fact that users of sust usually begin to react on it after the week four. Week 5 in my case.
Just my opinion.

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marky
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posted August 07, 2000 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for marky     Edit/Delete Message
My last cycle ended in april. First thing the water went and i looked much harder and defined, and the abs jumped out. Strength stayed level and i lost 10lbs. Kept my workouts short and intense and lowered the poundages and upped the volume. Ate the same.
After a month the weight started going back up and soon i was back to cycle weight. Strength never left. 3 months later still feeling strong, poundages slowly going up.
Appettite great. July 5th started next cycle-
although i didnt feel as anxious to start since i was looking and feeling great. used Clomid after for 4 weeks.

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PANGO
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted August 10, 2000 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PANGO     Edit/Delete Message
Are you talkin' 'bout echinacea, catnip, and alfalfa? That is KEERAZY son!! You young kids these days and yer' steroids. Why don't you get back to old school bodybuilding and mix yerself up a peanutbutter & egg shake. Add a teaspoon of honey to flavour, and yer all set.

If you don't want to lose anything after yer steroids, try rubbin' tiger balm on yer testicles.

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