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 insulin dependency!
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Stew Meat Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 114) |
posted August 05, 2000 05:07 PM
   My father just found out that he was a diabetic. The doctor prescribed him some pills to take. He said that the doctor told him that as long as his pancrease was working at least some that they wouldn't put him on insulin shots. The doctor said that once you start someone on insulin shots the pancrease shuts down. I don't see any difference in having to be dependent on insulin when you take it as an anabolic. thoughts? IP: Logged |
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LEGEND Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 270) |
posted August 05, 2000 06:22 PM
i have been doing alot or research on insulin lately, i was thinking of doing some, but that is real serious shit, you can really fuck yourself up if you are not careful. i guess i'm either too scared or not dedicated enough to try it. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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riskybiz007 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 182) |
posted August 05, 2000 06:26 PM
i'm not sure if pancreas stops producing insulin when there is more insulin, its a good possibility, especially at high doseages when body cannot convert the insulin to be inactive. Your dad is probobly receiving some insulin stimulators that a lot of people get when first diagnosed. Insulin is kinda a last resort used. I'm guessing he's a Type 1 right? As long as his body uses the insulin produced he's type 1. Personally i know a lot of people use insulin but i would stay away from it, because it can develop into a dependency. IP: Logged |
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Mlrtime1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 149) |
posted August 05, 2000 10:46 PM
Did 8 wks at 15IU/day of fast acting Insulin and no problems when I stopped. IP: Logged |
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Monster Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 246) |
posted August 06, 2000 12:05 AM
Its more a matter of having a damaged pancreas or some kind of inability to produce insulin to begin with that would cause the shut down. A meal heavy in simple carbs causes the body to produce large amounts of insulin. Once that insulin is in the blood stream the body will see it the same as if it was injected and in the blood stream. It begins using it to shuttle nutrients. This insulin in the blood stream that was made by the body earlier (due to the meal) would shut down the pancreas, too, by that reasoning... But this only goes as far as using a reasonable amount of insulin is concerned. Using a large dose or frequent large doses would most likly affect the pancreas. The same probobly goes for constant use of it. I cycle it, just like any other drug... IP: Logged |
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GENETIC_FREAK Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 74) |
posted August 06, 2000 12:34 AM
Perhaps the MD worded it poorly. DM has everything to do with genetics. Family hx is something to consider, same is true of thyroid meds. I have never seen any peer reviewed evidence stating ones body can become dependent on insulin. If I had a strong family hx of testicular or prostate cancer I probably wound not juice. IP: Logged |
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The Ranger Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1452) |
posted August 06, 2000 02:35 PM
Probally on Actos, or Glucotroil(sp) or Metaformin...This happens to alot of people as they age, weight, diet, and yes family history dictates alot in this. Good diet, and medication will control this...but, even then...as age creeps up, he could become Insulin dependant....And yes, I've experimented with alot of shit...but Insulin will never see my body!!! ------------------ Ranger IP: Logged |
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gearface Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 508) |
posted August 06, 2000 02:54 PM
Hmmmm ....interesting....I wonder what The Blonde Myth has to say on this one? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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riskybiz007 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 182) |
posted August 06, 2000 11:53 PM
There's 2 types of Diabetes. One is possible hereditary, possible. There's absolutely no literature indicating it's hereditary though. Type 2 diabetes i believe has nothing to do with age, but it's more common when u age because as you know many people age, get chubby, and store lots of fat. This is the #1 cause. But they are not insulin dependent. You can even get rid of this type of diabetes with the right diet and exercise. IP: Logged |
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GENETIC_FREAK Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 74) |
posted August 07, 2000 12:30 PM
Etiology of type 1 DM Type one DM is characterized by destruction of the pancreatic beta cells. It is thought that a combination of genetic, immunologic and possibly environmental(e.g viral or toxins may precipitate the autoimmune process that leads to beta cell destruction). The fact is, exogenous insulin does not lead to beta cell destruction ie DM.(or dependence) Also, as a side note, Those patient who control their DM(1) by using insulin may eventually be able to control the disease without it, through lifestyle modifications. I'll end here but their is a wealth of info out there to those who seek it..........The Freak IP: Logged |
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Stew Meat Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 114) |
posted August 08, 2000 01:34 AM
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