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Medic
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted August 05, 2000 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Medic   Click Here to Email Medic     Edit/Delete Message
Ok Bro's
I posted a cycle a little while back and with all the great helpful responses I recieved I have put together a new cycle so here it is:
Week 1: 150mg eq. Week 2-3: 200mg eq./150mg winny(50mg eod) Week 4-6: 300mg eq./ 200mg winny Week 7: 400mg eq./Deca 200mg Week 8: 300mg primoB/Deca 300mg Week 9-11: 400mg primoB/ Deca 400mg Week 12: 300mg primoB/Deca 300mg Week13: 200mg primoB/ Deca 200mg
Clomid 50mg eod weeks 1-12 then ed weeks 13-16

Diet is clean and cardio(various)x5days/week
Thanks for any input that u guys can give. I thought alot about this I hope to make it worth it.

Medic

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GAAV KOSH
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posted August 05, 2000 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GAAV KOSH   Click Here to Email GAAV KOSH     Edit/Delete Message
1300-1500 cal/day? What are you trying to do? I think you need to state your goals and get some advice on your diet from some of the experts here.

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Krusher
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posted August 05, 2000 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krusher   Click Here to Email Krusher     Edit/Delete Message
This cycle is a little hard to read..retype it if you're hoping for more feedback (no flame intended, just a suggestion).

So I'm guessing you want to do a long cutting cycle? How much weight do you want to lose? 1300-1500 cal is very low for a man, expect to lose muscle as well. As for the cycle, do the deca and primo for the first half, then switch to winny/eq at the end because the deca will cause more water retention than the others. No need to taper up, no need to make things so complex either.
Loosely base the cycle length on how much weight you need to lose ie if you need to lose 20lbs, I'd do a 10 week cycle based on a fat loss of 2lbs/week. I would simply go 400mgs Primo or EQ with winny 50-100mg/eod IM
for the whole 10 weeks. You could use fina with winny to really harden up but you shouldn't really stay on fina for over 8 weeks. Hope this helps, feel free to email me if you need me to be more specific.

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Medic
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posted August 05, 2000 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Medic   Click Here to Email Medic     Edit/Delete Message
I'm trying here,
with advice how's this,
Week 1: Deca 200mg
Week 2: 300mg primoB/Deca 300mg
Week 3-5: 400mg primoB/Deca 400mg
Week 6: 300mg primoB/Deca 300mg
Week 7: 300mg primoB/Deca 300mg
Week 8: 150mg eq./150mg winny
Week 9: 200mg eq./150mg winny Week 10: 300mg eq./200mg winny
Week 11: 400mg eq./200mg winny
And my diet would consist of about 2500-3000cal/day sorry didnt't realize what i wrote before
thanks again for all the help

Medic

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2Thick
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posted August 05, 2000 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
Your cycle looks like a heavy cutting cycle. You will probably gain some real quality (and dense) lean body mass. You will also manage to shed a good portion of fat with a low calorie diet (along with the cardio).

Try to also go higher reps in the gym (i.e. 16-20 reps). This will help to bring out some vascularity.

You must still get a small amount of carbos (but only in the morning). That way you will not metabolize your protein for energy. Instead it can be used to build muscle.

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Krusher
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posted August 05, 2000 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krusher   Click Here to Email Krusher     Edit/Delete Message
Medic,

Please post the total quantities of gear which you have to work with and how much weight you want to lose. One quick critisism (sorry) of your revised cycle is the EQ and winny for only a few weeks at the end..these milder drugs take several weeks to kick in, you'd be going off right when they would start working their magic, that is why I would recommend running winny with primo and/or eq the whole way through

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2Thick
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posted August 05, 2000 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
According to your cycle revision, you are ending the EQ on 400mg. You should change that because you need to taper the EQ down during the final week.

You would be better off with starting the EQ high and tapering down. If you do not taper it down, then there may be a crash at the end (and that could lead to an unnecessary loss of gains).

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Medic
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posted August 05, 2000 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Medic   Click Here to Email Medic     Edit/Delete Message
Hey bros now i compltely lost again, maybe I am making this to hard on myself. So if anyone has some cycle suggestions, from the nonsense i left here today, I will be back on tomorrow, to check them out. Leave any suggestions or just csll me an ass. I thought I did enough research but its time to hit the books again.
The total amount of gear I have is:

PrimoB 2500mg
Deca 3000mg
Eq. 2500mg
Winny 1000mg

I also have enough clomid to induce ovulation in a small country, and also hcg and novaldex(all this shit just passes my door so I'm always stocking)

Bro's, yes, I'm learning and all u have been good,all flames are welcome for my lack of knowlegde.
But anyway Thanks for the past help, Keep it up-U Bro's are the best on the net that I have seen so far--u really know whats up.

Medic

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Medic
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posted August 05, 2000 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Medic   Click Here to Email Medic     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry but need to bump this up
need some more advice

Medic

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Krusher
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posted August 06, 2000 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krusher   Click Here to Email Krusher     Edit/Delete Message
Here is what I'd recommend..you'll need some more winny though and save the deca for a bulking cycle. The winny is 50mg/eod for the whole cycle, you can shoot the EQ 2-3 times per week and the primo once a week. Nolva won't be needed but some clen would be a nice way to ice the cake. You could make some solid gains in muscle and strength while dropping bf on this cycle.

WK---WINNY---PRIMO-----EQ
1----50eod----300--------
2----50-------300-----300
3----50-------300-----300
4----50-------300-----300
5----50-------300-----300
6----50-------300-----300
7----50-------300-----300
8----50-------200-----300
9----50-------200-----200
10---50---------------200

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Medic
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posted August 06, 2000 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Medic   Click Here to Email Medic     Edit/Delete Message
Krusher,

Thanks for all your help, I like the cycle u placed. I think becuase I was trying to incorparate to much I was getting lost along they way.
I was considering dropping the Deca. For alot of the back research I did, suggests not using. I'm going to get a hold on some more winny/primo and get started.
Again Thanks I will let u know how it is going.

Medic

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Krusher
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posted August 06, 2000 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krusher   Click Here to Email Krusher     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Medic, you should have enough primo (by my calculations..2500mgs..300 x 7=2100mgs and 200mg x 2 weeks=400mgs). If you want to lengthen the cycle to 12 weeks, simply start the EQ 2 weeks later than it is and keep it at the same dose as shown but I'd personally like it at 10 weeks. I did a winny/eq/primo cycle a couple of years ago, made solid gains and had ZERO sides. Good luck and enjoy!

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liltank
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posted August 06, 2000 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for liltank     Edit/Delete Message
here's an idea tae it or leave it. Since you have 3 compounds that don;t aroamatize(sp) the V, eq,Primo save those until after your cycle of deca. try this to begin. I have always believed that keeping a cycle simple and not getting to complicated with what or how much stuff i am using i have always made the best gains. I would suggest starting with just the deca to increase your size, do not do any cardio while you are taking it..

deca=3000mg

week 1-10

deca 300mg per week

after week 10 begin doing your cardio the deca will stay in your system for a few weeks after your last shot. Personally i have always felt that winstrol was a shitty compound to use based on my own experience but again every body reacts different to it.

week 12 begin more cardio and start your intake of EQ and V.

Save the primobolan for after your cycle of winstrol and EQ that way you will avoid a huge crash, anyway hope this helps email me if you want more ideas


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Medic
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posted August 07, 2000 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Medic   Click Here to Email Medic     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Bro's
Every thing looks great, U guys sure do make it easier to get things rolling
Thanks for all the input

Medic

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corgan
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posted August 07, 2000 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for corgan   Click Here to Email corgan     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone intersted in buying gear e-mail me at [email protected] for a list of products thanks

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T-BONE
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posted August 07, 2000 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T-BONE     Edit/Delete Message
Hey corgan, take a hike you fuckin asshole.

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Medic
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posted August 08, 2000 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Medic   Click Here to Email Medic     Edit/Delete Message
Corgan
, I'm out here getting useful info stay they fuck out of here


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Medic
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posted August 09, 2000 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Medic   Click Here to Email Medic     Edit/Delete Message
Anyone else with some suggestions
Always looking for some good help

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Maverik
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posted August 09, 2000 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maverik   Click Here to Email Maverik     Edit/Delete Message
Hey corgan. Please do us all a favor and go kill yourself. Thanks alot. Peace...Mav

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Medic
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posted August 09, 2000 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Medic   Click Here to Email Medic     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the support MAV
This guy has emailed me like 4 times now

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