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 My quick home-made winny injectable
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Hominid Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61) |
posted August 05, 2000 02:16 PM
  
I added 1.5 grams of stanozolol (winstrol) powder to a 30ml vial of bacteriostatic water containing .9% benzyl alchohol to make a 50mg/ml suspension of winny for injection. I've done three injections so far with no problems whatsoever. Just thought I would mention this in case others have considered doing the same. The only concern is that this winny powder is not necessarily manufactured sterile for use in injections, but personally I don't feel it presents any great danger. The benzyl alcohol in the bacteriostatic water will stop any growth of bacteria. Also I've been keeping the suspension in the refrigerator just to be on the safe side. IP: Logged |
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SCHNiKEN Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 494) |
posted August 05, 2000 08:58 PM
can we please get an opinion on this from some of the doctors and anyone who knows.. if this is safe or not because id love to make the powder in injectible rather then taking it orally IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 512) |
posted August 05, 2000 09:54 PM
Yeah bump this for some mods help. Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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mach2 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 9) |
posted August 05, 2000 10:59 PM
I understand that the powder may be sterile because of the alcohol. but injectables are made specificaly for absorbtion in the muscle, which has a different ph and and chemical make up than the gut. intestional absorbtion is totaly different. Im not sure that what you have made up will be totaly absorbed and if it is it will probably have a different strength. Oral drugs are compounded so as to take into account the loss of a certain percentage of the drug through the gut. I dont think it is a good idea to make orals into injectables. IP: Logged |
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marky Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 479) |
posted August 05, 2000 11:30 PM
How fine is the powder? Are you using a 16 gauge? IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 512) |
posted August 05, 2000 11:42 PM
Mach 2: Saying this always causes a big fight on the boards but all winny is 17aa so it doesn't matter if it is taken orally or injected. But I still don't know about how sanitary Hominid's methods are. This goes out to all newbies: don't try this at home! But let us know how this goes, Hominid, and if you get any infections. I know you said you haven't gotten any yet but it doesn;t mean you won't so I would recommend that others not try this(AT least not yet). Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 512) |
posted August 05, 2000 11:56 PM
Using a 16g? God, I hope not! Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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ghans Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 157) |
posted August 06, 2000 01:26 AM
Do not use a 16g needle. Way to big. Try 22g or 23g for intramuscular injections ghans IP: Logged |
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Juicer56 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 343) |
posted August 06, 2000 02:46 PM
i tried making it into an injectable but it wouldnt pass through the sterile filter but i also was making it 100mg/ml so maybe there was to much powder..considering using the same kit for the fina for the winny..oil based winny  IP: Logged |
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mach2 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 9) |
posted August 06, 2000 02:50 PM
what i mean to say is that the substance in an injectable is made up differently than for a oral. injections have different compounds in them to make them able to be absorbed, the alcohol is only a preservative. it will be interesting to see if the expected results are the same though. IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 512) |
posted August 06, 2000 04:57 PM
I know what you are saying Mach2 and for the most part you are right. But what I am saying is that there is no difference chemically between oral and injected winny. The same holds true for dbol. They are both 17aa which means that they were intended to be taken orally. The only reason that they made an injectable version was to make it easier to administer to animals. So that would not be a problem as far as absorption goes and actually injecting is much more efficient but I am still not sure about how sanitary Hominid's methods are. Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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Hominid Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61) |
posted August 06, 2000 05:21 PM
Glad to see my topic attracted some interest. I tend to be a little more of a risk taker than others, so I can understand how some might veiw my technique with raised eyebrows. In answer to those who asked, I'm using my usual 23 guage pins to inject. The suspension is a chaulky white color. It is quite painless and very easy to inject. I prefer to inject winny because I believe injectables are more effective but that is a different subject unrelated to this thread. It's my opinion that the granules or crystals of stanozolol suspended in the solution will be assimilated into the muscle tissue in a manner no different than would be the case with testosterone suspension. The assimilation may be faster or slower than test suspension, depending on the density and granularity of the particles, but that is of no real concern here. I have little fear of bacterial infections from this suspension because of the benzyl alcohol present in the bacteriostatic water. Even if there are a few bacterium present in the powder, the benzyl achohol should prevent them from multiplying enough to become a danger. In healthy people the immmune system is quite capable of handling tiny bacterial invasions. And if there is something in this powder that is so dangerous that even a tiny amount would cause disease then we really have no business ingesting it orally either. IP: Logged |
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the truth Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 665) |
posted August 06, 2000 06:14 PM
Juicer56, I don't think you'll have good results trying to pass a suspension through a filter; they are best used for solutions. Hominid, yes, what you are doing should be pretty safe to inject. Mach, stanozolol powder in its pure form can be safely made into a suspension and injected. There will be no difference as to how effectively it is absorbed by the body. IP: Logged |
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NoviceJuicer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 363) |
posted August 06, 2000 08:53 PM
This topic has interested me and I am glad to see someones practical experience in it. I have wondered about the safety of even injecting Ref-B. I wonder if you were to freeze the homemade winstrol solution overnight if it would affect potency? I do not think so. The freezing would help to eliminate all the germs, that is why we freeze meats etc. Heating/boiling would also sterlize, but would definately affect the strength. All my interest is purely academic however since AS are illegal. IP: Logged |
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