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NewNatural Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61) |
posted August 04, 2000 02:56 PM
  
What's up guys, I use to post here a while ago but stopped to keep the temptation down since I had just started lifting. Was just wondering why you guy's use roids. I know for people competing it's a must to be competitive but for those who just lift for themselves then why use?? I've been lifting on and off for a few years and just got serious and learned how about 9 months ago. Since then I've lost about 35 pounds and have put on some good quality muscle and upping my lifts. I've seen more improvement in my body in those 9 months than the past few years. If making good gains really just takes some hard work(yes I know with roids you work your butt off too) but why not go natural?? Save the risk of injury, gyno, and whatever else could happen. Just want some opinions since I've been thinking of doing a cycle for some time now, but am still not sure if it's for me or not. I kind of think like I'd be cheating myself of knowing that everything I've accomplished was just from my hard work and sweat, and taking the easy way out. IP: Logged |
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YellowD98 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 470) |
posted August 04, 2000 03:06 PM
Natural bodybuilding will only get you to a certain level PERIOD. You will never get mega ripped or reach your maximum potential by going natural. For some people, just being muscular and putting on a very good amount of mass is good enough. For them, steroids would not a suitable option, and they shouldn't use steroids if they are happy with the level of achievement they have successfully made naturally. For the serious bodybuilder, competitive or not, anabolics provide a very efficient way of escalating BEYOND their genetic potential and closer to their maximum potential (the most muscle you can put on your frame). For them, the benefits outweigh the risks. They accept them, and through responsible use of steroids are able to drastically improve their bodies that natural training will otherwise not provide. So, its a personal choice. If after 5 or 6 years of intense physical training one wishes to move to the next level, and they are willing to take the risks, then anabolics are a very suitable option. If not, and you are satisfied with the way things are and the progress you have made, then steroids will not be a very suitable option. Its a personal choice that one can only make after intense dedication to the sport. IP: Logged |
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ripped to shreads2 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 144) |
posted August 04, 2000 03:09 PM
some of the "natural" bodybuilders take steroids also, but they take certain steroids that have a real short life in the body and cant be detected in a drug test IP: Logged |
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sour jerk Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 304) |
posted August 04, 2000 03:12 PM
yellows reply is exceptional,i agree 100% .. please note that you should only use roids after 5-6 years of intense training.im sick of people juicing after 6 months of training because theyre arms havent reached 20 inchs yet.its a joke,this type of ignorance is unbelievable. s o u r j e r k IP: Logged |
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Gettinhard Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 149) |
posted August 04, 2000 03:15 PM
you will reach a plateu in bodybuilding were you cant gain muscle and you need an advantage to take it to the next level. I have been working out for about 10 years on and off about 4 years very serious. I wanted to go further.....As for your final comment i dont think it is the easy way out. you still have to train hard if not harder than ever. Using Steriods is an option and i choose to take that option you must choose for yourself.....Dont hate the players hate the Game....... IP: Logged |
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Slopain Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1236) |
posted August 04, 2000 03:18 PM
Finally someone asks with an open mind. We have had in the past the rudest SOB's come and ask the same question with a much different slant. Props to you. I agree with the bros, there is also another case (shamefully as it is with me) some just want to get bigger quicker than it would take to be natrual. I personally know I wasn't at any kind of a natrual plateu when I started, but I just couldn't wait a year for gains I could make in 2 months. Slopain IP: Logged |
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eastarr Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 244) |
posted August 04, 2000 03:18 PM
I do it because I want to. Also, after trying it natural for the past 2 years, I can only get so big. Now I can get as big as I want. ------------------ "Pain is weakness leaving the body>>>" IP: Logged |
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TEZT Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 39) |
posted August 04, 2000 03:24 PM
I also agree with YD98 and GH, using AS will by all means take your body and mind to a much higher level then being natural. If you have never used AS and you are looking in the near future to use them, i can recomend to take advantage of your first cycle and plan it right. Your receptors are so clean and fresh, therefore use the juice but dont abuse and wacth yourself GGRROOWW!!!! IP: Logged |
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NewNatural Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61) |
posted August 04, 2000 03:24 PM
I didn't want to imply that it was an easy way out just I feel that it's an easy(ier), and faster way of getting to where I want to be. I know how hard you gotta train on roids, but you can't really say that you train harder than naturals because if I could train 3 hours a day 5 days a week I would. But if I do I'd be so sick and never see any gains. One thing I'm sick of seeing on all these BBing boards are roiders making fun of naturals, now don't think I'm talking about every roider out there but there are a lot who do. Who say you'll never be as strong or as big as me. Well for one I don't want to look like a roider, I don't want veins coming out my ass and just that huge look overall. I guess I just started this post to get some input on why you guys started using and if you could do it all over again would you. I guess roids is not the way for me to go but I'm not a natural that hates users, just have different goals. IP: Logged |
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ajc1977 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 815) |
posted August 04, 2000 03:28 PM
Just wait till the natural gains stop and you actually get to the point where you have to work so hard that you puke, just so you can get a good pump and feel sore the next day. That's why ------------------ IP: Logged |
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decibel Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 245) |
posted August 04, 2000 03:30 PM
i just do it for the fans.. IP: Logged |
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MP5 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 267) |
posted August 04, 2000 03:31 PM
you have to remember just cause you have used roids does not mean you will look like a "roider", or be too big. I cannot speak for the rest of you, but I know that it is damn hard to get "big" no matter how hard you train. Doing roids is not going to get you instantly stacked. I hate hearing comments from people such as "don't get too big", "don't get as big as him" (when they see a picture of Ronnie Coleman!). All roids do is bring back the gains like you used to make like when you first started lifting. It is not for all, but lifting for months with no gains sucks. IP: Logged |
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NewNatural Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61) |
posted August 04, 2000 03:36 PM
So in reality even if I did start taking roids I wouldn't see gains substatially over the ones I'm making now being a beginner and only 20 years old. I'm not strong or big by any means now but I just started and actually just started trying to get big since I've gotten off my diet. IP: Logged |
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ajc1977 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 815) |
posted August 04, 2000 03:44 PM
NewNatural - That's exactly right. You will make good enough gains in your first two years or so, that it would literally be a waste to fuck with roids, especially at your age. I started SERIOUSLY lifting at age 20 and it took almost two years for the gains to really slow down. Then I started cycling and here are those steady gains again. Pay your dues-wait a year or two. IP: Logged |
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YellowD98 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 470) |
posted August 04, 2000 03:44 PM
Truth be told, you'll grow no matter when you take them. Save early puberty and all that. But the downside of taking them early (ie. before you have maxed out your genetic potential) is that when it comes time that you want to hit that next level above your gentics, you are going to have to take a LOT more steroids and put yourself and a much HIGHER risk. Thats why everyone says not to use steroids until you are sure you're ready for them. Your body becomes adapted to anabolics overtime, and it responds less and less effectively with every cycle. Thats not to say, they still aren't effective or that you can't change up the types of steroids. Just that you won't experience the same extreme growth you'd experience during your first few cycles. IP: Logged |
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Slopain Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1236) |
posted August 04, 2000 04:04 PM
I agree if you took them now youd definetly see more growth than you would natrual. Slopain IP: Logged |
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NewNatural Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61) |
posted August 04, 2000 04:07 PM
Yeah I think I'm gonna stay clean, maybe the thought will come back in a few years. But for now I'll stick with bustin ass 3 days a week till I puke. Man I love that feeling!! IP: Logged |
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jeffjordan Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 15) |
posted August 04, 2000 04:16 PM
Your genetic make up will only allow you to achieve so much. Once you have achieved all that you can naturaly steroids are what can break this genetic make up barrier. Using gear is not taking the easy way out unless you use it like that, but if you obtain your fullest potiential naturaly and then use you will become alot stronger. I love to argue when people say that roids are taking the easy way out, because it is not if you think about it. If you are a novice lifter and use gear yes you get stronger quicker but after the cycle you lose most of the gains and you still have to work just to get to your own genitic capabilities plus you have the negative side effects. But if you have all ready reached your best and use the worst that can happen is that you will just be as strong as your genetic make up will alow you. You do have to consider side effect but if you do your homework most of them can be reversable. Would you say people who use andro., and creatine are taking the easy way out? No because these athletic enhacing products are acceptable to society/natural body builders. We have come so far this past century in genetic enginerring that it will be scary to think what body builders will look like in the next 50 years. I believe there is going to be a certain point were we can go no further in genetics but we are not close to that yet. Due the hard work first then when you have done all that your make up will let you do consider gear but also the side effects. IP: Logged |
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NewNatural Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61) |
posted August 04, 2000 04:22 PM
Thanks for your comments guys! IP: Logged |
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Bossman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 496) |
posted August 04, 2000 06:06 PM
Everyone takes them for their own reasons. I have friends that took AS cause it gave them the edge they needed to play Big Ten Football. I take them to look good and feel better about myself. I lifted off and on for years with slow gains. I have a very fast metabolism, couldn't gain weight at 4000 cals a day. Roids helped me over this plateau. I've gained 13 pounds so far, and it is all muscle, my waist is smaller than it was before I started. May not seem like a lot to some of you guys, but any of you that were ever in this same boat know how hard it is to earn every pound, even while on AS. I'm currently at 5'11'' and 180 pounds, and my waist is a 31. Feels great, everyone I see says "wow, you look good" girls and guys alike. So like Ranger says, "I do it cause I wanna be one BIG MUTHERFUCKER!!!" --------------- Bossman IP: Logged |
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