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Original_N2Deep Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 30)	posted August 03, 2000 04:12 PM I have looked at the ingredients for yohimbie fuel and it says 8mg of yohimbine. So if i were to empty the capsules and add to lotion would I be able to apply topicaly. Would this be the same as yohimbine hcl. Any help appreciated I have done a search and this aspect is not clear. Peace IP: Logged
Badkins21 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 11)	posted August 03, 2000 04:14 PM Hey, you could order some DMSO, the role on kind, and then apply the powder on that. www.dmso.com I would do it before bed and then wrap yourself in Saran Wrap to sleep in. Also, if you wanna spend some $$, check out www.anabolics.com and look at their Dermo-LEAN. Looks very promising! ------------------ GIG 'EM, Badkins21 $$ IP: Logged
animal B Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1073)	posted August 03, 2000 04:15 PM learn to swollow, and it wont absorb with lotion IP: Logged
Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 723)	posted August 03, 2000 04:16 PM I was instructed by someone on this board that you can make a solution 50/50 dmso and water mixed with 50 caps of yohimbe fuel. Apply it twice a day preferably before cardio first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, and another time when you haven't eaten for a few hours. Does it work? I am not sure as I really have not got to try it that much yet. I will bump for more input on this I would like to know. That derma-lean does look interesting, i wonder if triacana will work like that(transdermally) for spot reduction ------------------ DECA-IT'S WHAT'S FOR DINNER [This message has been edited by Decaman (edited August 03, 2000).] [This message has been edited by Decaman (edited August 03, 2000).] IP: Logged
Original_N2Deep Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 30)	posted August 03, 2000 04:19 PM How should I apply it then. So yohimbie fuel will work topically. IP: Logged
animal B Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1073)	posted August 03, 2000 04:24 PM am I missing something...why dont you swollow the caps IP: Logged
ozzymandius Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 602)	posted August 03, 2000 04:24 PM I AM NOT AN EXPERT BUT I THINK yohimbine AND yohimbine hcl ARE TWO DIFFERNT THINGS. IF yohimbine WAS AS STRONG AS yohimbine hcl WHY WOULD PEOPLE ORDER IT AND WHY WOULD YOU HAVE TO GET A SCRIPT FOR IT. IP: Logged
edgecrusher Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 35)	posted August 03, 2000 05:03 PM Something I've used in the past with good success is yohimbine and ben gay. No joke it works really well. Take two teaspoons of bengay and add Yohimbine. I use 2 adipokinetix, if you want to enhance the fat burning add a triac capsule. Use it twice a day and watch the fat go away. IP: Logged
tmi533 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 45)	posted August 03, 2000 05:39 PM yohimbee hcl in a topical gel pharma grade www.zoelabs.com cellafirm has triacana also IP: Logged
Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 723)	posted August 03, 2000 05:45 PM Anybody try that cellafirm shit or anything for that matter from this zoelabs place? LOoks interesting ------------------ DECA-IT'S WHAT'S FOR DINNER IP: Logged
Puc Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 658)	posted August 03, 2000 06:39 PM Animal B -- Topical application should aid in localized fat loss. Original_N2Deep -- Just try it and find out. If you feel a buzz and some tingling it is working. That stuff is a stimulant. At least that is my theory. Others -- You do not need DMSO to absorb Yohimbine HCL, it is easily absorbed through the skin. Just make a solution w/water and rub it on your stomach and wrap some Saran Wrap. You will feel the buzz. Puc ------------------ existing somewhere between euphoria and suicidal rage IP: Logged
DocJ Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 267)	posted August 03, 2000 06:48 PM I was going to try that during my next pre-contest cycle but maybe I'll experiment this fall, sounds promising. ------------------ "It's a good day to be alive, sir, It's a good day to be alive he said..." IP: Logged
NEWMAXX Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 272)	posted August 03, 2000 06:49 PM Yohimbine HCL is not the same thing.....Macro is pretty up on this stuff...email him ------------------ "Fear is the mind killer, it is the little death that causes total obliteration..." IP: Logged
supreme Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 72)	posted August 04, 2000 12:39 AM Yohimbe & Yohimbine & Yohimbine HCL are three different but similar compounds Yohimbie is the herb used in things like Yohimbie Fuel - good orally, topically probably has lots of binders and fillers in the capsule Yohimbine is a drug used to treat impotence, purer & stronger than yohimbie but the tabs will have binders and fillers that would decrease its effectiveness used topically, better orally Yohimbine HCL is a pure pharm grade research product which would give the best topical results as well as good oral results The Tricanna/adipokinetix/Ben gay formula was suggested by the late Dan D in Ironman Mag about 5 months ago- works but only when you are already very lean and need to decrease a few MILLIMETERS of fat Oral yohimbie works ok, it blocks Alpha-2 receptors which in turn allows for greater fat breakdown by nor-epinephrine, the problem is that most fat areas with lots of A2-receptors have a poor blood supply, so not much yohimbie reaches them An example is the chicks with the tiny upper bod & the big fat ass (of course estrogen & insulin and too many twinkies play a role too in fat ass syndrome) So thats why Dan D thought of topical yohimbie products, he had a good one, Yo-BE-Lean but its not being made anymore. Currently Yohimbine HCL & Tyramine are being used as a powerful oral fat reduction product (at least according to animal)- no feedback on using the two with DMSO The good thing is that Yohibmie HCL & Tyramine are LEGAL resarch grade products I plan on trying them between DNP cycles Watch out if taking oral yohimbie and E/C/A together, this combo has been shown to cause dangerous heart arrythmias- take at different times Makes me wonder about the safety of oral Y HCL & Tyramine because Tyramine and Ephedrine work by causing nor-epi release?? any thoughts?? hope this helped later! [This message has been edited by supreme (edited August 04, 2000).] [This message has been edited by supreme (edited August 04, 2000).] IP: Logged
cockdezl Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 248)	posted August 04, 2000 03:48 AM Let's get this right. Yohimbe is the herb that contains the alkaloid, yohimbine, along with other alkaloids, such as reserpine. Yohimbine is simply the free base, while yohimbine HCl is just the salt of the free base. There is no difference between the latter two. YohimBE is less potent than the free base or salt, since the GI may not extract all of the yohimbine and possibly the other alkaloids present may interfere with the full effect. The problem with topical yohimbine, as stated by others, is its low lipophilicity, meaning it does not like fat. So applying it dermally will cause absorption with subsequent attraction towards the aqueous portions of the tissues. IP: Logged
supreme Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 72)	posted August 04, 2000 06:09 AM Wow! and people usually tell me I get too scientific and detailed in my explanations. There is no difference betweeen the yohimbine & the yohimbine HCL except in the way it is sold, the former in tabs with binders and fillers that would need to be removed to get the best topical results and later which is sold as resaerch grade powder with no binders or excipients. no matter which you choose, you still need exercise, diet & cardio for optimum results IP: Logged
2EZ2BRICH Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 77)	posted August 04, 2000 09:24 AM i just finished a DNP, Pure Yohimbe HCL and Tyramine cycle. down 7lbs in 10 days. i can tell you where i purchased my Yohimbe and tyramine if you like. shoot me an email at: [email protected] IP: Logged
supreme Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 72)	posted August 04, 2000 12:39 PM Hey 2EZ You did both together? What were the DNP dosages & the Y HCL & Tyramine dosage Did you take the Tyramine evey 4 hours like Animal suggests? What did you feel like? where you able to sleep at all? [This message has been edited by supreme (edited August 05, 2000).] IP: Logged
kodac Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 23)	posted August 07, 2000 03:04 AM i used cellafirm gel from www.zoelabs worked well,also tried mep real good during cycle no real risk they do c.o.d offer money back guarantee. IP: Logged
shmucko Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 169)	posted August 07, 2000 02:20 PM I hope that zoelabs place is on the up and up. I placed an order yesterday and they called to confirm today and said they were having a sale on the topical yohimbine hcl/triacana. IP: Logged
supreme Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 72)	posted August 07, 2000 02:35 PM Hey why bother with the topical stuff. I just remembered an old MM2k (before it became fags R us) article by Dan D he said the best Yohimbie results came from injecting a vet form called Yobine, not sure if you need a script for it. He also had an idea of alternating shots of glucagon & nor-epi about 1/4 inch apart, sorry he gave no dosage details. IP: Logged

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