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Big Brother Val Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 752)	posted August 03, 2000 03:09 PM There's been more questions on the board lately as to dosages, injection sites, side effects etc. The purpose of this post is to focus mainly on those same topics with my personal experience. When I first started the PGF2a, I wasn't sure what to expect. Not many people had reported using it. It was the articles my Dharkham that made me the most interested in it, as I was looking for localized growth in the arms. Not something that's gonna keep me growing all around such as d-bol, test, etc... I had a very specific goal... bring my arms up to speed. I started off very weak. The first day, I only took 1/4 cc. in each bicep. And that's it. The pain was pretty intense. The following day, I took 1/4 each bicep twice that day. Again... intense pain, but that's about it. Gradually I increased the dosage... and the # of shots... making sure the increase wasn't too drastic, ensuring my body could handle the changes. Well, I worked up to the point, where on days I injected arms, I shot 3 times in each bicep and each tricep... I did that 4 days a week, totaling 48 arm shots per week. Combine that with the 18 shots I was taking in the shoulders, and that was a whopping 66 shots per week. Biceps I would rotate from long head to short head every other shot, and triceps I'd shoot long head, lateral head, then long head again. Delt shots... I took one anterior, one posterior, and one lateral in each delt, each day. My schedule was as follows: Mon: Lift:arms/pump chest and shoulders shoot: chest and shoulders Tue: Lift:back/pump calves shoot: shoulders Wed: Lift:legs shoot: chest and shoulders Thur: Lift:chest and shoulders/pump arms shoot: arms Fri: Lift:Calves and forearms shoot: arms Sat: Lift:Rest shoot: arms Sun: Lift:Rest shoot: arms My lungs started feeling funny. Even after all the other effects, like pain and everything had gone away. Even while I was in bed at night, I still couldn't take a deep breath without coughing... it felt like I was trying to breathe underwater because of the pressure on my lungs. This concerned me, even though I understand the concept as to why this happens. So I decided to cut back bigtime on my injections. Reason #1 being the issue with my lungs, Reason #2 being I wanted to see if I would lose any of my gains when I really cut back on dosage. I started shooting arms only twice a week, and shoulders once a week. I only shoot the muscles on the days I train them. I shoot more at once... instead of .75 cc's each group per shot, 3 times a day, like when I was taking the 66 shots per week, I was now taking .5 cc per shot 4 hours before my workout, 1 full cc in each muscle per shot after my workout. That's still only half a cc less than I was taking per day before. Now my schedule looks like this: Mon: Lift:arms shoot: arms Tue: Lift:back/pump shoulders shoot: shoulders Wed: Lift:legs shoot: nothing Thur: Lift:chest and shoulders/pump arms shoot: arms Fri: Lift:Calves and forearms shoot: nothing Sat: Lift:Rest shoot: nothing Sun: repeat Quite a change in volume of shots. The whole point of this drastically long post was to give you my dosage and schedulre differences, and give the results of my experiment with the dosage. The results are: Before I was taking up to 33 cc's a week. Now I am only taking around 14 cc's a week. And even though I dropped my dosage considerably, I am still getting AMAZING pumps, and excellent growth. I have not slowed down at all. I have not lost ANY size whatsoever since dropping my dosage down, but I have actually seen a considerable increase in strength. My lungs no longer feel that insane pressure all day, and I don't feel sick 7 1/2 hours out of the day. I have lost 1 inch on my waist, and gained an inch and 1/4 on my arms in 6 weeks of usage, and gained 6 lbs. I'm very, very pleased with it, but would not take my dosage up to where it was before again. So take this not as the best way to cycle it... just as my experience. I personally can't see any reason to take it as much as I used to be... as I am seeing the same results now. Who knows... maybe 6 cc's a day, with a few days rest in between is just what works best for me. [This message has been edited by Big Brother Val (edited August 03, 2000).] IP: Logged
ozzymandius Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 602)	posted August 03, 2000 03:40 PM BUMP FOR THE PAIN FREAKZ. THANKS FOR THE INFO BRO. IP: Logged
Jeff_rys Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 592)	posted August 03, 2000 04:01 PM Reading your article Val, l am happy using only 3 cc's a day (2 shots) or like today 3 shots of 1 1/2 cc. l cannot always shoot whenever l want. But unlike you l do not gain (sure l gain some), like you. Maybe after shooting less then before your body still response heavy on your previous (if l may say so "insane shots", for me that is). My god man, how could you do that ? Still l will be at it for another 8 weeks if l can do it, with 2 to 3 shots a day. l started with the Lutalyse of Upjohn, 30 ml vials (3 pieces), but now l am using the 5 cc's vials of Sintyal (Argentinia). Syntetic, longer acting than the Upjohn, but l am not saying better, l really don't know. If ever l get some better result shooting anywhere, l will post it. Again nothing then praise for your willpower, which is unbelievable. ------------------ Jeff Don't look back, life is too short IP: Logged
Big Brother Val Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 752)	posted August 03, 2000 07:47 PM Bump before I get off work. IP: Logged
The Ranger Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1448)	posted August 03, 2000 09:36 PM I agree with ya 100% Val...I'm doing the " Clen Method " 2 injections per day, 2 weeks on...1 week off....makes a world of difference...sides, growth, and the shit's...!!! ------------------ It's All Good Bro's!!! Ranger IP: Logged
TEXASAMM Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 218)	posted August 03, 2000 09:36 PM THANKS FOR THE INFO BBV IP: Logged
THE APE Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 273)	posted August 04, 2000 01:41 AM BIG BRO & RANGER:THANKS TO BOTH YOU GUYS FOR PASSING ON YOUR EXPERIENCES WITH THIS.YOU GUYS ARE THE LEADERS OF THE PACK HERE(WITH THE BIGGEST CAJONES)AND PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF WHO WILL MOST LIKELY EXPERIMENT WITH IT PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU'RE PASSING ON.PLEASE KEEP UPDATING US ON YOUR PROGRESS WITH IT FROM TIME TO TIME.THANKS AGAIN FELLAS. IP: Logged
the mutant Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 10)	posted August 04, 2000 02:08 AM Big Val, great post. I have used PGF-2 and the results are unbeliveable....I never went above 1/2cc/site. How do you inject your chest???? I wanted to do my chest, but was unsure where in the chest to inject. I heard that PGF-2 destroys fat cells...comments??? \| \|----\| \| IP: Logged
Frackal Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 691)	posted August 04, 2000 02:59 AM 66 Shots a week!!! Damn! Big Brother Val-------> http://www.musclehedz.com/drug_zone/excess.html [This message has been edited by Frackal (edited August 04, 2000).] IP: Logged
Big Brother Val Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 752)	posted August 04, 2000 11:08 AM When I shot chest, I'd shoot it about 2 inches above the nipple. And Frackal... HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! That's funny as shit. And I'm sure Ranger can tell you, that's exactly how it feels sometimes. Right on.... IP: Logged
WCP Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1386)	posted August 04, 2000 12:59 PM Great Post VAL... Yes..one thing Ive found with it is that you dont have to put yourself through so much pain everyday to achieve growth. Before I finished my bottle I started going to a 1 day on one off. The sides were less, and I still got the growth I was looking for. I think pgf2a can adapt to just about any type of schedule. later, WCP IP: Logged
coyote977 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 272)	posted August 04, 2000 04:16 PM Thank's for the info bro. IP: Logged
Big Brother Val Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 752)	posted August 07, 2000 01:15 PM Bump due to more questions. IP: Logged

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