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joker
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posted August 02, 2000 09:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for joker   Click Here to Email joker     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 8732220
Anyone know the half-life? I want to use this in a cycle because I can get it cheap @ 200mg/ml. I just want to know how often I need to shoot it. Thanks.

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joker
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posted August 02, 2000 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joker   Click Here to Email joker     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 8732220
anyone?

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susthead
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posted August 02, 2000 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for susthead   Click Here to Email susthead     Edit/Delete Message
i thought it was an oral test myself 8 hrs life normaly mad by organon as androil

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GymRatSD
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posted August 02, 2000 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GymRatSD   Click Here to Email GymRatSD     Edit/Delete Message
Undecanoate is one of the longer esters. It's an eleven carbon chain. From what I gather, IF IT'S AN INJECTIBLE, it lasts quite a while in the system, like three weeks plus.

Organon produces it as an oral that has a short life span and is rather ineffective for a bodybuilder.

[This message has been edited by GymRatSD (edited August 02, 2000).]

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DYLAN
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posted August 02, 2000 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DYLAN     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, it is called Andriol. It only stays active in your system for a few hours. You'll have to take it about 4 times a day for it to stay effective. (And you won't have to shoot it at all, it is taken orally)
D.

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HeavyLifterX
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posted August 02, 2000 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavyLifterX   Click Here to Email HeavyLifterX     Edit/Delete Message
DYLAN is correct, Undeconate is Andriol, only stays active for a few hours. You must take a shit load of this for it to do any good. This used to be a good product, not used that much anymore.

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whodaman
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posted August 02, 2000 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whodaman   Click Here to Email whodaman     Edit/Delete Message
It is testosterone...so you can shoot it...it's worthless when taken orally....just stick a pin in the capsule..get the oil out and inject....if I were you, I would do about 200-240mg twice a week to start then taper down a bit at the end.

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ajc1977
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posted August 02, 2000 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ajc1977     Edit/Delete Message
GymRatSD You are thinking of test decanoate, which 100mg is found in the Sustanon blend.

Test Undecanoate is actually a short acting ester.

I looked at the andriol profile on my website and found that it is incorrect in saying that Test Undecanoate is one of the esters in Sustanon. I will make the changes ASAP.

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GymRatSD
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posted August 02, 2000 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GymRatSD   Click Here to Email GymRatSD     Edit/Delete Message
I do understand that the undecanoate (11 carbon chain) ester is not found in the Sustanon blend, but it is still a longer ester chain than the decanoate ester (10 carbon chain). The longer the chain, the longer it takes the body to remove the ester and make the testosterone bio-available.

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HeavyLifterX
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posted August 02, 2000 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavyLifterX   Click Here to Email HeavyLifterX     Edit/Delete Message
No, I think you are still misunderstanding this. The Decanoate ester can release for up to a month. The Undecanoate ester is alive for only a few hours. Quite a bit of difference in the two. The Decanoate ester found in Sust250 is what keeps it kicking for a 3 weeks to a month after the last injections, hardly similar to undecanoate.
Do some research here: www.anabolex.com

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joker
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posted August 02, 2000 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for joker   Click Here to Email joker     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 8732220
My source (one alot of you know) has it in 200mg/ml 10ml vial. It sounds to me like it's injectable. If it's half life is a few hours then I would be taking way too many shots.

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ajc1977
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posted August 02, 2000 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ajc1977     Edit/Delete Message
I am checking on it still. GymRatSD generally knows his shit, so I'm taking the fifth until I see what I can find.

I'm also adding and correcting some things on my website

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HeavyLifterX
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posted August 02, 2000 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavyLifterX   Click Here to Email HeavyLifterX     Edit/Delete Message
Never heard of it in a bottle, email a mod they can prob. help.

I know that Andriol is Test. UnDecanoate, it come in 40mg caps 60 to a bottle.

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GymRatSD
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posted August 02, 2000 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GymRatSD   Click Here to Email GymRatSD     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the complement, ajc1977.

The difference applies whether it's injected or used orally. One of the biggest reasons why it's so short acting in when taken orally is that testosterone undecanoate is not a 17-aa steriod, therefore, much of it is broken down by the stomach acids and such before it can be used for its beneficial purpose. But, because the ester is so big, some of it does pass through the stomach and into the intestinal tract.

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joker
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posted August 03, 2000 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for joker   Click Here to Email joker     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 8732220
So using an injectable would be preferred, but what would it's half life be? In all my searches I have found nothing about an injectable version, just the oral version.

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DYLAN
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posted August 03, 2000 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DYLAN     Edit/Delete Message
I have NEVER seen testosterone undecanoate in a bottle....Doesn't sound right to me.
Anybody else ever seen Andriol in a bottle?
Be careful.
D.

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GymRatSD
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posted August 03, 2000 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GymRatSD   Click Here to Email GymRatSD     Edit/Delete Message
I have seen somewhere that testosterone undecanoate is used in a vet med somewhere, but it won't be manufactured by Organon, makers of Andriol.

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