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which is a more effective fat burner.....

or would it be better to use both?

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mistah_d
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posted August 02, 2000 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mistah_d     Edit/Delete Message
clen is a better fat burner by itself. clen and xen is even better, but the best is clen t3 and xenadrine together. When the search engine is up you can do a search on the topic. I posted a great cycle of these three items that was given to me by decaman.

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Decaman
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posted August 02, 2000 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Decaman   Click Here to Email Decaman     Edit/Delete Message
How's it goin mistah, that cycle kicks ass don't it? I can't take the credit for it though, The Miracle man gave it to me, I just spread the good word

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susthead
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posted August 02, 2000 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for susthead   Click Here to Email susthead     Edit/Delete Message
do 4 days clen 4 day xenadrine and cycle emm clen is better but ive used them both and think xenedrine is good very goood maybe you should do some t3 also but only if you on gear as it will be catabolic to muscle t3 that is

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Buld0g
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posted August 02, 2000 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Buld0g   Click Here to Email Buld0g     Edit/Delete Message
Best fat burners, hands down...

short term: clenbuterol

long term: E/C/A stack

Never tried t3. but I heard it's the best but way to risky for me.

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ripped to shreads2
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posted August 02, 2000 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ripped to shreads2   Click Here to Email ripped to shreads2     Edit/Delete Message
xenadrine has no comparison to clen. clen is far more efective then xena, plus you can buy clen cheaper then xena.

just like muscle mag 2000 says that hydroxy cut is more efective then clen or hgh right?

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pacificfreak
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posted August 02, 2000 11:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pacificfreak   Click Here to Email pacificfreak     Edit/Delete Message
YEs i hear clen is better fat burner!!

Has anyone heard or know if Clen is slightly anabolic also?????

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ColumboWeiser
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posted August 02, 2000 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ColumboWeiser   Click Here to Email ColumboWeiser     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 22135825
clen has no anabolic properties in human, but if you are a cow, your in luck...hehehe

but seriously, it is a great anti-catabolic for dieting down...

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Anabolicum Mister
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posted August 02, 2000 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anabolicum Mister   Click Here to Email Anabolicum Mister     Edit/Delete Message
I find clen better but will only use it for a maximum of two weeks at a time. Use Xenadrine to brigde clen cycles. Although I hear alot about Clen/T3, I too am not brave enough to play with thyroid hormones. Be aware that T3 will also cause muscle loss (if you don't counteract with juice) and some people have a rebound effect and put on alot of fat when they come off T3.

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FoeLife
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posted August 02, 2000 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FoeLife   Click Here to Email FoeLife     Edit/Delete Message
Hey bro, I'm getting ready to start my 2 week on/off cycle of clen and Xenadrine. Lets stay in touch and compair our results, see which is working better. Later bro.

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