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OneDay
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 19)
posted August 01, 2000 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OneDay   Click Here to Email OneDay     Edit/Delete Message
Ok Guys,

I know that you always see newbies posting up their first cycles and yall think to yourselves - "Not another idiot who hasn't a clue what he's talking about". I have done my research and I am, I guess you can say unsure of myself. Please read my cycle below and tell me what i need to alter. I am currently 195lbs. 16 -20% BF, 6'1". My goal is to be 180-195 lbs. 6-8% BF.

Russian Sus250 - 1amps/wk weeks 1-3, 5-8
2/wk weeks 4-7
Primos - 2amps/wk weeks 1-3, 8-10
3/wk weeks 4,7
4/wk weeks 5,6
Winny - 3 shots/wk 50cc
weeks 1-10
HCG - weeks 7, 11

To some of you vets this might sound ridiculous and maybe you might laugh. But I really need some sound advice to reach my goal above, so if anyone can help it would be appreciated. Should I add D-bols in there somewhere? Also, i want to reach my goal by christmas time. Is it possible with this cycle?

Thanks
OneDay

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Deltzilla
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted August 01, 2000 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deltzilla   Click Here to Email Deltzilla     Edit/Delete Message
Bro, can you rewrite your cycle like this:

Wk----type----type-----type-----
1-----dose----dose-----dose-----
2-----dose----dose-----dose-----
3-----dose----dose-----dose-----

You get the picture. It's way to hard to follow what you wrote.

[This message has been edited by Deltzilla (edited August 01, 2000).]

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YellowD98
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted August 01, 2000 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowD98     Edit/Delete Message
Load the sustanon up the first weeks not the middle. I'd go 500 all the way through or one shot every 4 days.

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morereps
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 328)
posted August 01, 2000 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for morereps   Click Here to Email morereps     Edit/Delete Message
The cycle you have described is used for bulking. If you are near 20% b/f you might want to do a cutting cycle first.
If you want to bulk up, you need not taper
the sust. And yes use some dbol for the first
4 weeks with the sust.
Make sure to use clomid also.

Good luck.

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OneDay
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 19)
posted August 01, 2000 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OneDay   Click Here to Email OneDay     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry

wk----Russ Sus250---Primos---Winny---HCG
1--------1amp--------2-------3 50cc------
2--------1-----------2-------3 shots-----
3--------1-----------2----------3---------
4--------2-----------3----------3----------
5--------2-----------4-----------3---------
6--------2-----------4-----------3---------
7--------2-----------3-----------3-----HCG
8--------1-----------2----------3----------
9--------1-----------2-----------3---------
10-------1-----------2-----------3---------
11--------------------------------------HCG

Nolvadex 1 tab/day as needed

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Bossman
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted August 01, 2000 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bossman   Click Here to Email Bossman     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know what your goals are, but if you want to bulk, so the sus at 500mg/week for 8 weeks and d-bol at 30mg/day for the first five weeks. Then in week 10 go into the winny/primo.
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OneDay
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted August 01, 2000 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OneDay   Click Here to Email OneDay     Edit/Delete Message
My goal is to get lean and look a little massive. So, you suggest do the bulking AS in the beginning of the cycle and then the cutting. If that was so then the cycle would go on for 12-16 weeks? Isn't that too long of a cycle for a newbie?

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Green
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted August 01, 2000 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Green   Click Here to Email Green     Edit/Delete Message
Can't help much other than I'd say load up the sust at the beggining at 500mg./week. If you want, keep it that for the whole cycle. If you're trying to lean out I'd stay away from the D-bol. Later, Green

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ANVIL222
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 62)
posted August 01, 2000 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ANVIL222   Click Here to Email ANVIL222     Edit/Delete Message
IN NORTH AMERICA 12-16 WKS. MAY SEEM LONG BUT IN EUROPE IT IS THE NORM.

USE THE SUST 250 AT 500 MG/WK. UNTIL YOUR LAST 2 WKS THEN DROP TO 250 MG/WK. RUN THIS FOR 8 TO 10 WKS.

D-BOL FOR THE FIRST 5 WKS AT 30,30,30,25,15.

AT WK 8 ADD IN THE PRIMOS AND WINNY FOR 6 WKS.

THE LENGTH OF THIS CYCLE WILL BE 14 WKS. TOTAL.

YOU MAY WANT TO REPLACE THE HCG WITH CLOMID AT 50 MG EOD THEN 100MG FOR 10 DAYS POST CYCLE.
YOU HAVE A GREAT MIXTURE OF GOODIES FOR YOUR FIRST CYCLE. YOU SHOULD SEE GREAT RESULTS!!!

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Consultant
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted August 01, 2000 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Consultant   Click Here to Email Consultant     Edit/Delete Message
Hit the sus hard and heavy and taper at the last 3 weeks and try some primo from the 7th week out at 300-400mg a week and you will love it.

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OneDay
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted August 02, 2000 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for OneDay   Click Here to Email OneDay     Edit/Delete Message
So when should the Nolvedex and Clomid be added/how much?

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HeavyLifterX
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posted August 02, 2000 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavyLifterX   Click Here to Email HeavyLifterX     Edit/Delete Message
You should do the clomid @ 50mg eod all through the cycle, I also do it for 1 week post cycle @ 100ng eod. Keep the nolva out unless you really need it.

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media
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted August 03, 2000 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for media   Click Here to Email media     Edit/Delete Message
I think that cycle that last more than 8 weeks is not for the beginers at all. You should do fine with 8 weeks cycle. If you want to get cut then Sust is not the item to deal with. Instead of it you can put some anavar, andriol, or Eq in the game. Then, when you lower your BF% to desireable level, you can do bulk cycle. But, you must stay off about 8-10 weeks between those two cycles.

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