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  Why cant you mix water and oil in the same shot????

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Author Topic:   Why cant you mix water and oil in the same shot????
Tembo
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posted July 31, 2000 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tembo   Click Here to Email Tembo     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 64926064
So why would this be a problem?
You would eventualy absorb both substances right?

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lorenzo
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posted July 31, 2000 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lorenzo   Click Here to Email lorenzo     Edit/Delete Message
who says it's a problem? You can do it.

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Tembo
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posted July 31, 2000 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tembo   Click Here to Email Tembo     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 64926064
oh, ok.

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Steelheart
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posted July 31, 2000 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steelheart   Click Here to Email Steelheart     Edit/Delete Message
haha You guys are fucking nuts!!! I dont know why but this post actually made me laugh out loud her at work.
Oh ok.....HAHAHA!

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ryry
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posted July 31, 2000 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ryry   Click Here to Email ryry     Edit/Delete Message

i've researched this and there is actually nothing wrong with it. it doesn't effect absorption at all whatsoever. its just oil and water don't mix that well so when you put them together you get alot of air bubbles in your syringe. its just for convenience...

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The Ranger
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posted July 31, 2000 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
You can do it...yes. But, I would advise against it...try this test:

Take a glass of water...then drop a teaspoon of cooking oil into it....nasty looking!!!

Water base can be injected with a small pin....take the two injections...but, this is my personal preference Bro!!!

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Maverik
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posted July 31, 2000 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maverik   Click Here to Email Maverik     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, personally I would keep them seperate. Oil and water don't mix. True that it wouldn't hurt you much, but it is not the best idea. Everyone jumps in when there is a "who pulls back before they inject" post and says that they never see doctors pull back which is sometimes true, but I guarantee you wouldn't see doctors with a big bubbly looking syringe filled with an oil and a water based AS. Just my opinion though. Some people do it and don't think it makes a difference so it is up to you. Peace...

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Consultant
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posted July 31, 2000 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Consultant   Click Here to Email Consultant     Edit/Delete Message
Yea it is possible but the water will fill the sites quicker and may inhibit some of the test from entering! Take the two shots!

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T-BONE
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posted July 31, 2000 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T-BONE     Edit/Delete Message
Funny, awhile ago when I said you could mix them, I got flamed! But to make a good point (I don't know how true it its) someone said that when mixed they could crystalize and cause problems. Anyone else ever heard of this or have any proof?

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Green
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posted July 31, 2000 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Green   Click Here to Email Green     Edit/Delete Message
I heard of someone that would use a 1.5 inch dart and do two shots at once. They'd bury the needle as far as they could shoot 1/2 (H2O based) pull the pin out about 1/2-3/4 inch and shoot the rest. I've never done this but heard it works pretty good. Later, Green

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Tembo
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posted August 01, 2000 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tembo   Click Here to Email Tembo     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 64926064
cristalize? water and oil?
NAAAH!

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GymRatSD
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posted August 01, 2000 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GymRatSD   Click Here to Email GymRatSD     Edit/Delete Message
There are a few problems with this from a biochemical standpoint:

Just because a drug is oil-based or water-based does not mean that the drug is exclusively soluble in oil or water. For example, testosterone is freely soluble in oil (especially the longer ester chains), yet is slightly soluble in water (especially the shorter ester chains). Therefore, some of the drug will move from the oil phase to the water phase in the syringe. What does this mean? Oil is used to delay the action of the drug entering the body. When it's in the water phase, the drug will be absorbed much more quickly, possibly rendering the drug either useless or not as bioactive.

On the flip-side of the coin, Winstrol is a suspension in water meant for quick absorption and fast action. Winstrol also is very soluble in oil. If the Winstrol were to move into the oil phase, it would take much longer to make it bioactively available, hence it would not be of much value.

Keep the shots separate and you won't have the problem.

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JBigger
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posted August 01, 2000 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JBigger   Click Here to Email JBigger     Edit/Delete Message
I have always mixed my B12 together with my test and deca without a problem.
They are visibly separate is the syringe but they mix well in my ass. Sometimes I have to jump up and down real fast for several minutes.

Note: The last sentence of the above post is a feeble attempt at humor. Please do not try this at home.

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Jeff_rys
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posted August 01, 2000 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff_rys   Click Here to Email Jeff_rys     Edit/Delete Message
bump for the guys who seperate the shots.
Besides taking two shots will not kill you.

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DREXX
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posted August 03, 2000 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DREXX   Click Here to Email DREXX     Edit/Delete Message
JBigger: Your feeble attempt made me laugh out loud...

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