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MONSTROSITY
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posted July 30, 2000 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MONSTROSITY   Click Here to Email MONSTROSITY     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 270
I just raed an interesting article, below(AP press release). The eastern countries seem to always be on the forefront of performance enhancing drugs. Have you guys heard of any new drugs that will evade drug tests?

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fith-element
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posted July 30, 2000 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fith-element   Click Here to Email fith-element     Edit/Delete Message
i'm always up for more drugs that are undetectable, bumpity bump

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Wynn
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posted July 30, 2000 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wynn   Click Here to Email Wynn     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 57136133
Where's the article? If it's on the net post a link or the article itself.

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trapper john
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posted July 30, 2000 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trapper john   Click Here to Email trapper john     Edit/Delete Message
Most of the time the drugs that are used have been tweaked so that the metabolites that show up in the urine sample don't match any that are being searched for. The Europeans have better access to this system since they are "helped" to win(pass the test) by their sports governing body. Although I am sure that many US athletes are "helped" in the same way by coaches that have access to knowledgeable chemists,,,,

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fith-element
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posted July 30, 2000 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fith-element   Click Here to Email fith-element     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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@LRG
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posted July 30, 2000 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for @LRG   Click Here to Email @LRG     Edit/Delete Message
dont know but i just heard on the news this morning that 1000 syringes filled w/ EPO were stolen from some hospital that had something tied in w/ the olympics coming up.

im@LRG

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daveyboy
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posted July 30, 2000 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daveyboy   Click Here to Email daveyboy     Edit/Delete Message
they still can't test of hGH. insulin is another hot topic. plus the usual products that you probably know. i wonder what people are saing about PGF2

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THESAINT
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posted July 30, 2000 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
HGH doesn't show up on drug tests. As a matter of fact Australia is coming down
on the aussie exporters because of the Olympics. Troy labs have already been shutdown.

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code_x
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posted July 30, 2000 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for code_x   Click Here to Email code_x     Edit/Delete Message
Stacking Insulin and injectable creatine phosphate is getting much more popular with Olympic Athletes-x

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300 kleen
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posted July 30, 2000 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 300 kleen   Click Here to Email 300 kleen     Edit/Delete Message
I hate to burst your bubble guys, but as we speak they are in the process of creating a test for GH.

They also are debating whether or not they should stick to the traditional urine exam or switch to hair testing, which will show everything that you have taken approximately for the 6 months prior to the test. It's still up in the air...

Masteron was undectable up until a couple years ago.

I would really like to see some new AS's or performance enhancing drugs that are undectable or close to it....makes me all excited...lol

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big_guy1
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posted July 31, 2000 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_guy1   Click Here to Email big_guy1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5126477
I don't think they will switch to a hair test...then all people gotta do is sahve their entire bodies....and if the committee complains they just say that is how they liek thir bodies, and plead discrimination...blood tests onthe other hand I have heard taht they were thinking about using....


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MIKAI
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posted July 31, 2000 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MIKAI   Click Here to Email MIKAI     Edit/Delete Message
Bro's
Ok an intresting thing on the hair test is that say you or me have been in contact with a street drug say cocain for example if we touched this and say did our hair shortly after we would have contaminated our hair and if this was then tested it would show up on a hair test even if you had not done any drugs.

There was a thing on this a while ago that some police men had a hair test and failed as they where in the anti drugs unit and came into contact with drugs quite often and there hair had be contaminated but they had not actually used any drugs...!

So there is a small problem with it but i cant see how u can say "Well i had a load of deca get over my head when a friend opened a vial and it broke and went everywhere..!"

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Recoome
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posted July 31, 2000 04:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Recoome   Click Here to Email Recoome     Edit/Delete Message
injectable creatine phosphate? Where?

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ajc1977
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posted July 31, 2000 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ajc1977     Edit/Delete Message
No shit- Injectable Creatine? Who makes it?

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Fast Eddie
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posted July 31, 2000 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fast Eddie   Click Here to Email Fast Eddie     Edit/Delete Message
I heard some shit about some vet drug called IL 15. dont know much about it. Increases skeletal muscle growth 5 fold when taken with igf-1.

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GymRatSD
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posted July 31, 2000 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GymRatSD   Click Here to Email GymRatSD     Edit/Delete Message
Drug testing on hair is EXTREMELY overrated (I've performed the test myself). It's not very sensitive, and a relatively significant amount of the hair is required for testing. Also, the length of the hair is of concern... the longer the hair, the more history it holds.

HGH can be tested for, but, as of now, it is not specific to whether it's natural or synthetic. I think the testing lab might be suspicious of high HGH blood levels. I'll find out if this is tested for in international competition.

I'll check with the USOC to see what is up with their latest testing methods. If I find anything, I'll update everyone here.

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GymRatSD
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posted July 31, 2000 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GymRatSD   Click Here to Email GymRatSD     Edit/Delete Message
Notes from the USOC on hormone use:

"The presence of an abmormal concentration of an endogenous hormone or its diagnostic marker(s) in the urine of a competitor constitutes an offense unless it has been conclusively documented to be solely due to a physiological or pathological condition."

Hormones tested for include: HCG, LH, ACTH, HGH, IGF-1, EOP, and Insulin (and "related substances").

And, as of now, urine is the specimen of choice for testing.

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THESAINT
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posted July 31, 2000 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
Gymratsd, I meant synthetic HGH. Obviously
you can test your HGH levels. It's a naturally occurring hormone.

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