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 great 109 gram protein. snack
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lifter1 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 7) |
posted July 30, 2000 10:26 AM
  
food cals prot/gm carb/gm fib/gm fat/gm cheerios 1.1/4 cup 110 4 20 2 2 milk/skim 342 33.4 47.5 0 1.8 albaoce6oz175 45 2.5 0 2 1banana 105 1.2 26.7 1.8 .6 cottage cheese 1 cup 220 26 8 0 9 total 952 109.6 104.7 3.8 15.4 Mix all contents into a bowl and push it down with milk. Great tasting and good eaten. IP: Logged |
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moe dank Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1305) |
posted July 30, 2000 10:37 AM
good shake. I am waiting for the idiots that think you cant digest more than 30 grams of protein per meal to post. That is a myth. plain and simple. IP: Logged |
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jc21 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 208) |
posted July 30, 2000 05:11 PM
I'll be the guy, u sure as hell cant digest 109 grams of protein, i get 50-60 then shove in as many carbs as i can. IP: Logged |
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moe dank Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1305) |
posted July 30, 2000 05:13 PM
just wondering what your reasoning behind that is. Why cant you digest that much protein. IP: Logged |
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mac sloan Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 147) |
posted July 30, 2000 05:17 PM
How do you know you can digest it and how do you knwo you can't. Until someone posts a study it's pointless to argu whether you can or can't. IP: Logged |
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The Dude Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 186) |
posted July 30, 2000 05:18 PM
Don't worry about it moe, you can. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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bignate73 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1234) |
posted July 30, 2000 05:48 PM
you can digest that much but why bother? fact is, when you consume high protein and/or high fats your body slows down peristaltic movement of the gi tract to accomodate for the slower breakdown. now, if we as bodybuilders are to eat every 3 hours, how easy is that going to be if you always feel bloated. hence the reasoning for 5-7 SMALL meals a day. even measures of protein spaced out to keep positive nitrogen balance...not one large dose and you are good for 8 hours. i guess getting a nice fat 109 gms would be cool once in a while but its alot of stress to put on your digestive system all at once. plus you gotta figure that all of that protein wont be used for its intended purpose: repair and rebuilding of muscle. guess where all that excess goes? just a thought. seems physiology and chemistry has ways of limiting food intake. IP: Logged |
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moe dank Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1305) |
posted July 30, 2000 05:59 PM
mac sloan it has been studied and it is common medical knowledge that you can digest more than the 30gram myth. That is the reason to argue the point, to dispell myths. IP: Logged |
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Green Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 457) |
posted July 30, 2000 06:27 PM
Moe can you point top a study that proves that? I go in blocks of 50g per meal but it's convient size wise more than anything. Later, Green IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 643) |
posted July 30, 2000 06:32 PM
I'm down with 50-60 grams a meal, like bignate says that is the reasoning for eating every 3 hours, smaller meals, it just seems to make more sense. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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moe dank Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1305) |
posted July 30, 2000 06:53 PM
well bro i read it in last months musclemag or flex. Do some looking around on the net on protein digestion. Sure eating 100grams is excessive, but that 30gram myth is just crazy. I would say 50 grams at 6 of your meals a day is just fine. high grade marijuana is worth more than its weight in gold! Well worth the price of fighting in a war that has no honor. www.alternativegarden.com www.emeryseeds.com www.hempqc.com [This message has been edited by moe dank (edited July 30, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Yoda Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 336) |
posted July 30, 2000 10:32 PM
There have been studies done on protein intake and the limiting factor, if I remember right, was the enzymes necessary for digestion. This was reported in a medical journal, not a monthly supplement catalog, I'm sorry magazine. The study went on to talk about the fact that the body will break it down and store it as fat, but only a small portion would be available for use in tissue repair. Oddly enough they said somewhere between 40-60grams per meal, not the 30 grams everyone talks about. If we could use 100+ grams a meal, dont you think every pro BB out there would be doing it??? Stick to the 50-60 gram range every few hours. IP: Logged |
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big_guy1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1292) |
posted July 31, 2000 01:58 AM
the latest study on proteinis you can absorb up to 40 grams of protein and hour, after that a dimishing return effect happens, but there isn't a significant drop off till about 100 grams an hour... big-guy IP: Logged |
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the truth Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 651) |
posted July 31, 2000 02:17 AM
Did you guys read the original post? Mixing cheerios, albacore, cottage cheese, milk and banana? Doesn't that sound disgusting? BTW, I routinely eat over 100 grams of protein in a meal. But these are huge meals that I consume over a period of a couple of hours. I have seen a study that indicated that the point of diminishing returns ofnitrogen balance in relation to protein intake was in the neighborhood of 50 grams, but I can't remember the publication. If I can find it, I'll post it here, but keep in mind that if this is true, it doesn't mean you can't use the extra protein, just that it's not used very efficiently. IP: Logged |
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Recoome Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 129) |
posted July 31, 2000 04:35 AM
i eat 500 grams of protein a meal.. IP: Logged |
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benchmaster Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 142) |
posted July 31, 2000 06:20 AM
Try and eat 100 + grams of protein a meal...you'll sh*t BRICKS and rip your a*shole out by passing those lincoln logs! Constipation CITY!!!!! Damn......I need to go and take a Sh*t! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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the captain Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 55) |
posted July 31, 2000 07:20 AM
sometimes i wonder if some people on the board are just looking for a topic to argue over----that's why god created women. hahaha ------pain is temporary pride is forever----- IP: Logged |
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ajc1977 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 735) |
posted July 31, 2000 01:59 PM
Even Muscle & Fitness with their 1,700 calorie-per-day diets, has tried to dispell the 30 grams of protein myth. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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tries Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 9) |
posted July 31, 2000 03:41 PM
IVE OLNY BEEN ON THIS BOARD FOR A FEW WEEKS NOW AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IVE HAD THE PLEASURE OF SEEING THE PROS HAVE A THROW DOWN... GREAT STUFF GUYS! KEEP IT INTERESTING FOR US NEWBIES. THANKS IP: Logged |
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Yoda Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 336) |
posted July 31, 2000 03:46 PM
Not to sound too cynical but the 1st time the Pros have thrown down??? Have you been hiding under a rock, seems like we're at each others throats on every thread lately, lol!!! As Ranger says though, "Its all good". Need to hear from both sides once in a while to keep things honest!!! IP: Logged |
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ripped to shreads2 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 76) |
posted July 31, 2000 04:32 PM
ok if you digest ower 100 grams of protein in one meal you must be takin in like 300 grams right? well it is proven that all you need for bodybuilding purposes is .08 grams per pound of weight, sure people see better results when they take in 2.5 g per pound, it is a fact that they achive better weight gain not because higher protein but because the extra prtotein picks up where u lack of proper carb and fat intake. so unless u looke like Nasser it is unnecessary to take in high amounts of protein it is a waste of cash and it can be bad for your liver and kidneys. well balanced diet is the key suplements are suplements they cant replace a good diet. IP: Logged |
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cockdezl Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 232) |
posted July 31, 2000 07:36 PM
"well it is proven that all you need for bodybuilding purposes is .08 grams per pound of weight, sure people see better results when they take in 2.5 g per pound, it is a fact that they achive better weight gain not because higher protein but because the extra prtotein picks up where u lack of proper carb and fat intake. so unless u looke like Nasser it is unnecessary to take in high amounts of protein it is a waste of cash and it can be bad for your liver and kidneys. well balanced diet is the key suplements are suplements they cant replace a good diet." First, off nobody states that 0.08g/lb of bodyweight is sufficient, for anything but malnutrition. Even the sorry RDA is 0.8g/kg of bodyweight (0.36g/lb). For your suggested protein intake, a 200lb man would only need 16 grams of protein a day!!!! They would be in serious negative nitrogen balance. Next, you need to read more studies by Peter Lemon who studies protein metabolism in athletes. His studies, and others, show that the RDA guidelines are insufficient for athletes. His recommendations are 1.2-1.7 grams/kg of bodyweight. IP: Logged |
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bignate73 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1234) |
posted July 31, 2000 08:09 PM
lets do some math: 1.2-1.7 g X 91kg (200lbs) = 109g-154g .8 g X 200lbs= 160 g assuming that ripped meant to say .8gm/lb instead of .08, it would seem that both of you are right on. when arguing a point you have to take into consideration certain conversion factors. ie lbs to kg. the supplement companies will use the gm/lb gimmick and jack up the #'s so you will have to take more product. think about it, 2.5gm/lb right? thats 5.5 gm/kg! i havent read anywhere a number that steep ever. dont believe the hype. i have read what cockdezl spoke of. 1.2-1.7 being for athletes etc. bodybuilders will require a bit more obviously but not to the extremes that i hear of. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Starting Over Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 8) |
posted July 31, 2000 10:51 PM
Let's see.....tuna shakes.....I KNOW I've heard that somewhere before..... IP: Logged |
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