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 T3 and thyroid shutdown.
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 394) |
posted July 29, 2000 04:13 AM
  
I know that everyone has said that if you use t3 the right way, you won't have any problems with this but I also know that some people still fuck up their thyroid with t3. Has anyone done this? What are my chances of fuckin up my thyroid? IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 394) |
posted July 29, 2000 04:00 PM
BUMP. IS there anyone out there?? IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 683) |
posted July 29, 2000 04:18 PM
If you have a pre-existing thyroid condition your chances of having a problem are greater. No-one can predict what will happen to you bro, if you take it correctly you should be fine, however there is still risk invovled. I have been on it for about 4 weeks and am slowly coming off, i will be off in 4 days. YOU MUST TAPER UP AND DOWN SLOWLY AND DO NOT STAY ON IT MORE THAN 5 OR 6 WEEKS. In addition having your thyroid checked by your doctor before you go on it would be the best advice anyone will give you. IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 394) |
posted July 29, 2000 07:04 PM
Thanks Decaman. Anyone else? IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 394) |
posted July 29, 2000 07:22 PM
Hey decaman, what are you stacking it with and how have your results been so far. Is this stuff worth the risk or what? IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 683) |
posted July 29, 2000 08:11 PM
I am stacking it with eca and clen, winny eq and sus, results have been oustanding, I am nearing the end and the results continue even on only 25mcg. Is it worth it? I can't answer that for you Bro, if my thyroid is fucked do you think it would be worth it , no matter how good I look? You will have to decide that. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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VoxDeis Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 20) |
posted July 29, 2000 08:53 PM
The general rule of thumb with endrocrine effecting drugs, hormones, is there are always regulatory mechanisms that adjust the levels in the body. When taking an exogenous hormone , a drug, the body will always down regulate its own output. When one comes off of the cycle of T3, depending on how much they took and how long, there will always be a period of lowered thyroid output compared to baseline pretreatment levels..hope this helps... IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 683) |
posted July 29, 2000 09:37 PM
So what you are saying is your thyroid will take some time to normalize. What does this down time mean physically, how is it going to effect you? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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300 kleen Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 2590) |
posted July 29, 2000 09:53 PM
That's why it is imperative that T3 (cytomel) be tapered up and down very slowly. This is not something to F*CK with. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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VoxDeis Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 20) |
posted July 29, 2000 10:39 PM
Kleen put it very nicely...you don't want to mess around with T3 because there is no equivalent, well there is...but very hard to get...called TSH (Thyroid stimulating hormone)...and the peptides are best...but..there is no way that most people can get to "kick" the thyroid back into action. Tapering down will lesson the any dramatic rebounds but it won't bring back the thyroid any quicker. IP: Logged |
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giantset Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 268) |
posted July 29, 2000 11:25 PM
I have never read about or heard about any cases of anyone ever permanently shutting down their thyroid by using t3. On the ug board there is even a $100 award to anyone who can find any studies or cases in which someone has permanently shut down their thyroid. It may temporarily suppress your thyroid but will not fuck it up permanently. Some guys on the ug use over 300mcg a day of t3 and have never had any problems, even quitting without tapering. I am trying it for the first time and it is fucking with my heart so I think I am tapering off of it now. Later, IP: Logged |
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Mojo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 479) |
posted July 30, 2000 12:48 AM
I wouldn't fuck with t3 until you do a lot of research on it. If you do it the wrong way, or take it too long you could be on thyroid meds the rest of your life. This drug is serious shit. Talk to Texas Guns. I think they had a problem with it a while back. IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 394) |
posted July 30, 2000 01:03 AM
Hey giantset: There was someone who fucked up their thyroid on this board a while back. I don't remember who it was but maybe someone else could. Guys, Just so everyone knows I have done plenty of research on this board and on the net on t3. I do know that this is not shit to be fucked with and I don't plan on fucking this up. I already know how I am goig to do it: Like this- 11111222223333344444333332222211111. It will be 5 weeks. I will be on 300mg of primo and 50mg of winny powder per day. I am totally without a doubt sure that I can do this the right way. I have just heard horror stories from people about t3 and I just wanted some final advice. I would rather have too much info than not enough and you have helped me a little more, although I knew most of this. One other question. If you are taking more than 1 25mcg tab per day, do you take it all at once in the morning or spread it throughout the day. Common sense would tell me that you should take it throughout the day but is this right or what? Thanks again bros. IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 394) |
posted July 30, 2000 01:15 AM
And VoxDeis: are you saying that this slow rebound will cause you to gain some fat back. I haven't heard this yet. And if this is true, then wouldn't taking clen after t3 keep the fat from coming back while your thyroid normalizes? IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 394) |
posted July 30, 2000 11:07 AM
bump IP: Logged |
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CLEMDOG Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 170) |
posted July 30, 2000 11:39 AM
If taking over 25mcg a day, spread it throughtout the day. Also since t3 is not a controled substance is it possible to obtain legally? IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 394) |
posted July 30, 2000 11:47 AM
Yes, I believe it is legal to import from overseas. IP: Logged |
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giantset Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 268) |
posted July 30, 2000 02:38 PM
Hey Maverik, it was Mrs. Texas Guns that suppressed her thyroid through t3 use. Her doc apparently does not believe that she shut it down permanently because he is trying to get it to produce normal t3 levels again naturally. If anyone has any documented evidence contridicting the raver bet on the ug board then by all means go and collect your money. I think t3 use poses realistic threats other than natural t3 suppression that should probably be looked at. My docs only concern with cytomel usage for weight loss is its effects on your heart. I can't even use ephedrine anymore. It forces me into a state of hypoglycemia where I begin to blackout and my heart develops irregular beats and begins to hurt. I have found similar effects from t3 but I am probably just a unique case. It seems the norm on this board to repeat like a fucking parrot any accusation that someone makes concerning a drug. Try looking for some primary sources and doing some research and deductive reasoning for yourselves instead of accepting whatever bullshit some person on a message board says, including myself. For all you know you are listening to a high schooler or GED bonehead that couldn't pass high school biology so don't risk your health or cycle success on a few opinions. I'm off my soapbox now. Later, [This message has been edited by giantset (edited July 30, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Kookyguy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 19) |
posted July 30, 2000 02:58 PM
I will tell you I have used cytomel a few times now and have had no problem with it. I did just what you plan to do. I do check with my doctor and have my blood checked every 6 months and everything works great. IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 394) |
posted July 30, 2000 03:19 PM
Do you feel better now, giantset? I hear you about not listening to just one or two people. If you have never heard of anyone fucking up their thyroid then that is great news and just what I wanted to hear. I try to listen to every opinion and get the full picture everytime I do research. Has anyone heard anything about Mrs. Texas Guns lately? I am just wondering if things are OK now. Peace... IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 683) |
posted July 30, 2000 04:08 PM
This a good thread as interest in t3 has seemed to pick up, after alot of people were down on it because of what happened to texas guns. I am nearing the end of it now, i must say it got hairy in the middle when i was taking 100mcg along with 120mcg of clen and 12 hydroxycuts a day, however i have since tapered down and am at the last few days at 25mcg. I feel fine, I have been told I look incredible and have been asked over and over about how i got to look so "hard" and defined. I hope that my thyroid is ok, as I would want to do this again next spring, as you live and learn, i would change a few things for next time. IN my opinion this drug is incredible, especially when stacked with clen and the proper anabolics, my apperance has been completely altered in 5 weeks, my bf is significantly lower, even with a diet that was less than perfect, next time I will be much more strict with my diet for maximum effect, damn eq makes you starve. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 394) |
posted July 30, 2000 04:15 PM
Yes, while the search is down, we should probably keep this bumped up to the top. And decaman, what was your starting BF% and what is it now? IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 683) |
posted July 30, 2000 04:23 PM
You know i never took readings, that sounds really stupid, i just went by the mirror, 2 abs 5 weeks ago 6 now. Next time I will get a bf monitor, i didn't this time because i was seeing results almost immediately, and knew my diet and cardio were in good ranges. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Ace Frehley Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 6) |
posted July 30, 2000 04:45 PM
well i have 2 days left on a t3 cycle. I don't know bf% but I have had positive results. My pants fit looser and I now have 2 abs showing. It just tickels the shit outta me. I stacked it with eca and to be honest, I never felt bad whatsoever. I love it and will do it again. IP: Logged |
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giantset Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 268) |
posted July 30, 2000 05:52 PM
No flame intended Maverik. IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 394) |
posted July 30, 2000 10:51 PM
I didn't take it that way at all, giantset. I was just joking with ya'. Peace... IP: Logged |
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bigmofo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 119) |
posted July 30, 2000 11:30 PM
well i am starting T3 and eca tomorrow,i have talked with alot of people and realize there are alot of risk's involved,but there are also alot of benifits involved,as with any drug "AS" included there are risk's, but because we choose to use AS and other drugs to better our body's,i feel it is well worth it,and to be completly honest most of the guys i have talked to, all of whom have personel experience,say go for it, BIGMOFO [This message has been edited by bigmofo (edited July 31, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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HelmsmaN Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 7) |
posted August 02, 2000 03:04 PM
Maveric, I'll bump this for ya...if this is not it, I can try again...BTW, the search does work, but you have to do it from the homepage, initially, it will give a search not found error, then search again, and you will get a good search IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 394) |
posted August 02, 2000 03:09 PM
Thanks bro, I just found it and posted it as a response to the question about T3 and clen. I did not know that you could do the search this way. Thanks for sharing that little tip. Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 394) |
posted August 02, 2000 03:21 PM
Hey Voxdeis: You never did answer my question above. Here it is again: "And VoxDeis: are you saying that this slow rebound will cause you to gain some fat back. I haven't heard this yet. And if this is true, then wouldn't taking clen after t3 keep the fat from coming back while your thyroid normalizes?" Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 683) |
posted August 02, 2000 03:27 PM
Good question mav, i have decided to remain on clen for 2 weeks then go to eca for 1 then off everything ------------------ IP: Logged |
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SMALL Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 113) |
posted August 02, 2000 03:29 PM
I have 300 T3 and I am not going to use them...crazy shit....not for me IP: Logged |
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SMALL Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 113) |
posted August 02, 2000 03:29 PM
I have 300 T3 and I am not going to use them...crazy shit....not for me IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 683) |
posted August 02, 2000 03:54 PM
Give em to me then ------------------ IP: Logged |
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heman87 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 10) |
posted August 02, 2000 04:00 PM
My mother has had a thyroid problem all her life, and has a lifetime Synthroid perscription. Would this family history make me more likely to react adversely to a t3 clen stack? IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 394) |
posted August 02, 2000 04:01 PM
Yeah Small, send 'em my way bro. I ain't afraid of this shit anymore. Well, maybe a little afraid, But I think that shows I am being realistic here. Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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WarLobo Moderator (Total posts: 1032) |
posted August 02, 2000 06:02 PM
This as been a good thread, just a note, right now I'm at 200mg per day and starting to tapper down. Sides: Hot as fuck, but then I always run hot, small headache once and a while, and one other side.... TEN FRICKNG POUNDS OF PURE FAT GONE!
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GymRatSD Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 402) |
posted August 02, 2000 06:11 PM
WarLobo, how big are you? 200 mg (or is it mcg? I cannot remember) seems to be at the extreme high end. I went up to 100 mg (or mcg, whichever), got a little paranoid and nervous, then tapered down. So far, no real problem, though I didn't lose much fat either. IP: Logged |
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blu2u Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 5) |
posted August 02, 2000 06:46 PM
WarLobo and others, Are you geared up while using T3 and/or clen... I have always read to be on to spare some muscle cloudy IP: Logged |
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blu2u Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 5) |
posted August 02, 2000 06:46 PM
WarLobo and others, Are you geared up while using T3 and/or clen... I have always read to be on to spare some muscle cloudy IP: Logged |
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GymRatSD Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 402) |
posted August 02, 2000 07:24 PM
When I did T3 and clen, I was not on any gear, and I didn't feel that I lost any size or strength. Your results may vary. IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 394) |
posted August 02, 2000 07:27 PM
Yes Gymrat, but you also said you didn't lose much fat so did you get anything out of it at all? Maybe you just don't respond well to T3. Peace...Mav IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 683) |
posted August 02, 2000 08:14 PM
My questions are to gymrats- are you doing cardio and what is your diet like? And warlobo 200mcg, have you dojne that amount before? What happened after you came off? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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MiracleMan Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 167) |
posted August 02, 2000 10:51 PM
Hay Decaman, I am glad you had success with your T3 cycle. Keep in touch...... IP: Logged |
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GymRatSD Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 402) |
posted August 02, 2000 11:49 PM
My diet was quite clean... ketogenic for six days a week. I would also do cardio three to five days a week. Three would be a cycling ("spinning" I HATE that term) class, the other two were swimming. I used to be a competitive swimmer. IP: Logged |
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