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GymRatSD
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posted July 27, 2000 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GymRatSD   Click Here to Email GymRatSD     Edit/Delete Message
There's been a good discussion going on Brovel, but what about Tornel? From the information that I've received, Tornel is supposed to be the better of the two (both quality and sanitary).

I also understand that their T-200 product was recently tested at above the listed concentration.

Any feedback?

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pharmaguy
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posted July 27, 2000 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pharmaguy   Click Here to Email pharmaguy     Edit/Delete Message
from what I understand, Brovel bought out Tornel; or vice versa; so it's pretty much the same thing now champ.

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GymRatSD
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posted July 27, 2000 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GymRatSD   Click Here to Email GymRatSD     Edit/Delete Message
Granted, websites usually don't hold up too much water, but they both have separate physical addresses and corporate information. I would like to see if someone has any first-hand, or at best second-hand, knowledge on the Brovel/Tornel soap opera.

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Your_Moms_Kneepads
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posted July 27, 2000 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Your_Moms_Kneepads     Edit/Delete Message
Scott, there are differing answers if Tornel and Brovel are now the same company. Until recently they were not. As far as now goes its hard to say-ask the vet next time and they'll tell you. From the feedback I have gotten Tornel's products always worked better for them,especially the T200. Its also afew bucks cheaper than the Brovel

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the truth
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posted July 27, 2000 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the truth   Click Here to Email the truth     Edit/Delete Message
A monitor on another board e-mailed Tornel a few months back and posted the response he got from them regarding the purported merger. According to the CEO of Tornel, they have not merged, nor do they plan to merge in the future.

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gamer
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posted July 27, 2000 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gamer   Click Here to Email gamer     Edit/Delete Message
Just because Brovel bought out tornell doesn't mean they can change their corporate culture over night. This takes an average of around five years to do according to studies done on the effects of management on business. Brovel buying tornell doesn't change tornell's facility which is what boils down to the quality of the product. Yes I believe they have merged but I don't think that tornell will be immediately dilluted down to brovels standards. I like gymratSD believe tornell to be a better product that brovel. This will probably change over time but their is no way that this could already have happened. It's just too soon.

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lexicon
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posted July 27, 2000 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lexicon   Click Here to Email lexicon     Edit/Delete Message
Only use either at as a last resort. I believe they are both low quality

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GRENDEL
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posted July 27, 2000 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GRENDEL     Edit/Delete Message
I HEARD TORNEL DID BUY OUT BROVEL ABOUT 8 MONTHS AGO FROM A VET IN COZUMEL. T-200 HAS WORKED WELL FOR MY FRIENDS BUT USED HIGH DOSES 500-750 A WEEK. HOPE THIS HELPS.

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big_guy1
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posted July 28, 2000 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_guy1   Click Here to Email big_guy1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5126477
tornel bought out brovel, the are keeping it looking like two seperate companies though, prob a marketing thing..as far as quality, it has gotten a lot better this past year, some peoplelove it, some hate it, personal opinion I think...

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supraman
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posted July 28, 2000 12:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for supraman   Click Here to Email supraman     Edit/Delete Message
From what I have seen they are both filthy garbage! My training partner has taken both. Most recently brovel t200 at 1g/wk. He has never had acne even on previous sus/dbol cycles, now he is literally covered! As far as gains.....very minimal, he got more off of dbol only.

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GymRatSD
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posted July 28, 2000 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GymRatSD   Click Here to Email GymRatSD     Edit/Delete Message
Bump...

From the ones that have used Tornel in, say, the last six months, did you get the gear from a source or did you purchase it yourself in Mexico? How old was the product itself?

There seems to be a debate on the quality issue of both Tornel and Brovel. If the quality control has improved with both companies over the past year, some may have not yet experienced the improvement because they have been receiving the older products from their sources.

I think this is an interesting topic and should be continued.

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ripped to shreads2
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posted July 28, 2000 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ripped to shreads2   Click Here to Email ripped to shreads2     Edit/Delete Message
competly agree with gymrats the old products are still going around, they are weri good buy cash wise and mg vise i love t and nor 200.for the price of 3 susts u can get a botle of t-200 comparisom wise:
3 susts=750mg
10ml t-200=2000mg
even if it is slightly underdosed it is still a better buy for your buck i gues the 200 mg came to be like 185 in a test, amd i belive that was on the older products.

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GymRatSD
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posted July 28, 2000 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GymRatSD   Click Here to Email GymRatSD     Edit/Delete Message
Bump once more...

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GymRatSD
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posted July 29, 2000 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GymRatSD   Click Here to Email GymRatSD     Edit/Delete Message
Bumping one last time...

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GymRatSD
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posted July 31, 2000 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GymRatSD   Click Here to Email GymRatSD     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry to bump this again, but I'd like to see if any of the bros out there have other opinions today...

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posted July 31, 2000 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1AbBIG   Click Here to Email 1AbBIG     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71165650
i am using the tornel t200. i got mine from a source. it has the blue fliptop. i have been on it now for 4 weeks . i strt my 5th week shot tomorrow. i am doing 600mg a week. i have had no probs on it and i paid $55 each. i am stacking with ref-b so i have gained 13pounds to date, with very little water retention. i would def use again but i will do 800mg next time.

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