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YellowD98
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posted July 26, 2000 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowD98     Edit/Delete Message
I notice a LOT of you guys use deca, either in conjunction with Dbol or instead of it. I also notice however, that it is relatively expensive compared to both test and Dbol. On average... it seems you'd pay a lot more for the Deca in the cycle than both the Dbol plus sus put together. Is there an advantage to using deca as opposed to dbol besides less sides? Does it help maintain gains better with less water retention? Just wondering why the higher price tag.

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adamsandlr
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posted July 26, 2000 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adamsandlr   Click Here to Email adamsandlr     Edit/Delete Message
well deca is low androgenic while sust is high androgenic so that's why it costs more

the safer the more expensive

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ulter
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posted July 26, 2000 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ulter   Click Here to Email ulter     Edit/Delete Message
Yellow, I think dbol is less because it is a very old compound that is easily produced. It also seems like there are more countries making dbol compounds than any other substance so the market is flooded. And last it's like you said "the sides" almost negate the short lived gains it provides.

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gamer
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posted July 26, 2000 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gamer   Click Here to Email gamer     Edit/Delete Message
Almost all the highly anabolic drugs are more expensive than aromitizing androgens. (non-aromitizing androgens are pricey to the contrary) Look at Primobolan, Deca, Winny, Anavar......They without a doubt have a very prominent part in a cycle as they develop into higher quality mass than aromitizing androgens. In combination together this means that you will keep more of your gains and will have lower side effects than if an equal dose cycle was constructed solely of aromitizing androgens. They are different and both essential to achieve AS's greatest potential.

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quenepo
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posted July 26, 2000 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quenepo   Click Here to Email quenepo     Edit/Delete Message
I'm with gamer,every hight anabolic is more expensive.

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BIG HURT
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posted July 26, 2000 10:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIG HURT   Click Here to Email BIG HURT     Edit/Delete Message
DECA BLOWS

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ARISTIMUQO
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posted July 26, 2000 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ARISTIMUQO   Click Here to Email ARISTIMUQO     Edit/Delete Message
Also DECA is good for pain in joints. I know someone that sell it in $9 for amp 50mgr, when you buy 12 or more, it isn't expensive

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ulter
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posted July 26, 2000 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ulter   Click Here to Email ulter     Edit/Delete Message
I'm lost here. Are guys saying dbol is not high androgenic? Since when? And dbol is a lot cheaper than Deca.

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gamer
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posted July 26, 2000 11:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gamer   Click Here to Email gamer     Edit/Delete Message
D-bol is extremely androgenic and cheaper which is the point of this whole post. Anabolics are much more expensive than aromitizing androgens.

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ulter
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posted July 26, 2000 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ulter   Click Here to Email ulter     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sorry.. I said androgenic I meant anabolic. Are you saying dbol is not highly anabolic?

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gamer
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posted July 26, 2000 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gamer   Click Here to Email gamer     Edit/Delete Message
Ulter
You are a little confused on a basic principle of AS's. The anabolic component of a steroid most often goes hand in hand with it's androgenicity. (Some exceptions would be halo and methyltest) D-bol is extremely anabolic and androgenic. A steroid is classified as either an anabolic or androgenic based on it's relationship to test which is considered to have a 1to1 ratio. All steroids are compared to this and then classified. AS which are less androgenic than test are considered anabolics and AS more androgenic than test are considered Androgenic. That is as far as the distinction goes. Deca is an anabolic and yet it still contains androgenic properties and d-bol is an androgenic AS, and along the same lines is anabolic as well.

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ANVIL222
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posted July 26, 2000 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ANVIL222   Click Here to Email ANVIL222     Edit/Delete Message
I ALWAYS FOUND EQ TO BE A BETTER ALL-AROUND A.S.....
IT ACTS LIKE A COMBINATION OF DECA.& D-BOL ALL IN ONE.

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ulter
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posted July 27, 2000 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ulter   Click Here to Email ulter     Edit/Delete Message
No my confusion lies in the first sentence of your post.

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ChaosXL
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posted July 27, 2000 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChaosXL   Click Here to Email ChaosXL     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP!!!

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jersey boy
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posted July 27, 2000 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey boy   Click Here to Email jersey boy     Edit/Delete Message
Deca is an excellent tissue builder and joint helper. Yes, more expensive, but to me, worth it.


get big or get out

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TEZT
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posted July 27, 2000 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TEZT   Click Here to Email TEZT     Edit/Delete Message
Wheres Deca Man at, i bet he could have a few good reasons to use Deca....

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Kry
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posted July 27, 2000 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kry   Click Here to Email Kry     Edit/Delete Message
I use in my cycles so sooth my joints it seems everytime I throw deca in I am pain free when lifting heavy with out it seems my joints get tired and sore more often then i like.

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FLEXMEX
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posted July 27, 2000 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLEXMEX     Edit/Delete Message
DECAS ALWAYS DONE GOOD FOR ME AS FAR AS PERMANANT TISSUE GAINS.

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media
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posted July 27, 2000 05:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for media   Click Here to Email media     Edit/Delete Message
Gamer, you did a god job. I can't see anything unclear in your post. Therefore, what's all that confusion about? D-bol has been around for almost 50 years. Yes the prices of AS is based on their anabolic to an androgenic ratio. The less andro they are (therefore fewer harmful side effects) the more expensive they are. Anabolic properties ARE much HIGHER in test and d-bol though then deca, anavar, primo ... but along with higher andro so the potential harm is much mor alike. That's all. I personally always put some deca in. As the other bros said it also helps in preventing joint injures and burst your immune system.

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media
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posted July 27, 2000 05:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for media   Click Here to Email media     Edit/Delete Message
Gamer, you did a god job. I can't see anything unclear in your post. Therefore, what's all that confusion about? D-bol has been around for almost 50 years. Yes the prices of AS is based on their anabolic to an androgenic ratio. The less andro they are (therefore fewer harmful side effects) the more expensive they are. Anabolic properties ARE much HIGHER in test and d-bol though then deca, anavar, primo ... but along with higher andro so the potential harm is much mor alike. That's all. I personally always put some deca in. As the other bros said it also helps in preventing joint injures and burst your immune system.

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ulter
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posted July 27, 2000 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ulter   Click Here to Email ulter     Edit/Delete Message
Gamer, I was confused by the way you worded your first sentence. But I fully understand your point and I would like to thank you for taking the time to pass along your beginners guide to AS 101. Really. Your thoughtful reply is in sharp contrast to some of the pissing matches that occur here.

[This message has been edited by ulter (edited July 27, 2000).]

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Decaman
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posted July 27, 2000 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Decaman   Click Here to Email Decaman     Edit/Delete Message
Well, well, we have a few deca bashers I see. Big Hurt, way to elaborate, I like to see an educated post such as yours from time to time. Tell me guys what is the issue here? Is it price? If it is , I know I can pick up Nor200 for a 100 dollars or less, that does not seem overly pricey for a drug with as many positives as deca. Someone give me another drug with minimal sides that can put the kind of mass on you that deca can. EQ no way, primobolan-nope, you get the point. Tell me why almost everyone throws deca in their stack? It is an excellent addition to almost any cycle, I am not saying that it should be the basis for a mass cycle, but it sure is a nice addition when you consider it's effect on helping the joints. Will your hair fall out on deca-no, will you get real bad acne -no, can you put on 20 pounds with it or even more of quality muscle , that with the proper post cycle regimen keep alot of it -yes. The bottom line is deca is safe, as safe as you are going to get if you are into steriods(primo too) , this is the reason for it's popularity, anyone can use deca and grow on it without worrying about serious side effects, if used reasonably. Granted one side that we could all do without is deca dick, to be honest , for me it is not a real big problem, get some clomid add some test, bang , no more deca dick. You could get alot bigger with test, you may get harder with eq, but for a nice combo of both-DECA - Why not use it?

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lexicon
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posted July 27, 2000 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lexicon   Click Here to Email lexicon     Edit/Delete Message
Gamer,
Great job. Very explanatory and also simple to understand.

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Roy Batty
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posted July 27, 2000 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Roy Batty   Click Here to Email Roy Batty     Edit/Delete Message
Decaman, You forgot something. Deca makes a beautiful bridge between cycles. 200mg per wk does me great and when I hit it again it's like my receptors are squeaky clean.

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ajc1977
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posted July 27, 2000 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ajc1977     Edit/Delete Message
OK- When the phrase "high anabolic" is used, they are meaning high anabolic to androgenic ratio. In other words it is much more anabolic than androgenic.

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vedder
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posted July 27, 2000 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vedder   Click Here to Email vedder     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Decaman, I am considering the drug, and didn't know what the specifics were as far as its sides and anabolic effects.

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