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 Survey: Checking for blood!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Lqdmscle Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 216) |
posted July 26, 2000 06:09 AM
  
How many of you pull back the plunger before injecting? I never did and I will never do it. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Kry Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 217) |
posted July 26, 2000 06:56 AM
you stupid if you don't it is easy and you never know if you don't and don't realize what you are doing you could wind up in a morge IP: Logged |
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Vitaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 488) |
posted July 26, 2000 07:00 AM
I alway have and always will check. It is not that hard to do. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Jeff_rys Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 536) |
posted July 26, 2000 09:14 AM
You better do it or you will be sorry one day. I end to often in a vein. Nobody sticks a needle in me without pulling back, not even a doctor or nurse. If they don't want to pull back, l will stick it in myself. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short IP: Logged |
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E-Toon Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 27) |
posted July 26, 2000 10:04 AM
Dumbass... change your ways!!! IP: Logged |
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raven Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 17) |
posted July 26, 2000 10:22 AM
Hmmm...I usually don't. I'm on my 7th cycle and I haven't had any probs. IP: Logged |
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xtreemrush Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 358) |
posted July 26, 2000 10:24 AM
i usually dont either. From all the shots i ever had as a child, never did i ever see them pull back on the plunger. IP: Logged |
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FitnessChick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1061) |
posted July 26, 2000 10:24 AM
I always do a drawback.....from day 1 IP: Logged |
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Slopain Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1018) |
posted July 26, 2000 10:25 AM
Always did/Always will. takes a second. Slopain IP: Logged |
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xtreemrush Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 358) |
posted July 26, 2000 10:36 AM
Seriously though, lets say you DID main-line this stuff...would it really cause a bad reaction (possibly death as someone said)? Or, would you just lose some of the effectiveness of the gear? IP: Logged |
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ThePitbull Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 582) |
posted July 26, 2000 11:04 AM
I always pull back on the plunger, doesn't take long, and better to be safe. If you are using oil based AS, and you shoot into an artery or vein, it could cause small clots known as emboli. Pitbull IP: Logged |
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WCP Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1330) |
posted July 26, 2000 11:06 AM
I always have and always will aspirate the syringe. For the most part you wont suffer any adverse effects from injecting into a vein, but hows about wasted gear??..Isnt that adverse enough for most of you?? Take pgf2a for example...you do not..!! want to shoot that into a vein.. Later, IP: Logged |
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DRCandyMan Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 43) |
posted July 26, 2000 03:40 PM
I got a shot for a couple of months ago (for pain) and the nurse DID NOT PULL BACK. I have never known them to...but then again maybe they don't inject as deep. Who knows? IP: Logged |
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jdismukes Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 348) |
posted July 26, 2000 04:13 PM
I don't pull back, I will next time, but let me ask ya'll this: Every shot, and I shoot in the glute, bleeds a little after I take the syringe out. I have never had any problems. But I was wondering if that was normal. It is not like it gushes blood, just a little trickel. IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 181) |
posted July 26, 2000 04:19 PM
I do because it is the intelligent thing to do. I spent too much money on this gear to waste it by shooting it into a vien. Hell, I hit one a couple of weeks a go and if I wouldn't have asperated, I would have shot it into a vien and wasted my juice. It only takes a minute so my question for you is why the hell don't you? IP: Logged |
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Slopain Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1018) |
posted July 26, 2000 04:21 PM
man I just dont understand how 3 cc's of oil injected into your bloodstream isn't a very bad thing? If the gear is wasted then it had to go into the blood stream? Slopain IP: Logged |
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Lqdmscle Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 216) |
posted July 26, 2000 06:42 PM
For people who thinks gear is wasted if injected in the vein. How the hell chemicals reach the muscle?? Magic? Blood transport the nutrients, oxygen to the muscle. For example, if you were bit by a poisonous snake, and it didn't hit the vein or capillaries then would you be ok? Of course not. So why then do you think gear is wasted if you hit a vein. I've hit a vein before, blood squirted out and hit the wall. Just put cotton swab and put pressure on it for a moment. Aspiration is important, but pulling back on the plunger is just plain stupid. Let say that you injected poison in your body, I know you wouldn't, but lets use it as an example. So if you injected poison into the bloodstream, then it would be less effective? Come on now! I can't believe there are so many misinform people out there. Blood is suppose to transport a/s to your muscle. How else does it transport a/s through absorption? Wouldn't the injected area be huge then?? The fact is, you don't need to pull back!!!
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Lthrnk Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 20) |
posted July 26, 2000 07:05 PM
I agree I also belive in the JUST SEND IT IN and get it over with ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 181) |
posted July 26, 2000 07:39 PM
Lqdmscle: The reason that you inject steroids intramuscularly is because it gets SLOWLY absorbed into the bloodstream. If you inject it into a vien it only makes since that it would give you a huge surge in testosterone followed by a huge drop a while later. The reason that I and others say that you will waste your juice is for this reason: If you injected steroids straight into the vien their effective time in your body would probably drop to less than 1/4 of the normal half life. Thank you for treating us all like morons but I think we all know that steroids get through your body via the bloodstream. The point is that they are intended to be injected into muscle so that they can be SLOWLY released into the bloodstream. Notice how the word SLOWLY is highlighted here. If you think it is OK and you won't be wasting most of your gear then why do you inject intramuscularly at all. Go ahead and shoot that shit into your viens on your forearm. I am sure it would help because you wouldn't have a sore ass and problems sitting down, not to mention it would be easier to reach than your glutes. So shoot away bro. And good luck if you do your next cycle this way! IP: Logged |
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NEWMAXX Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 224) |
posted July 26, 2000 07:41 PM
What is the big deal? Pull back...better safe than sorry. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 181) |
posted July 26, 2000 07:44 PM
By the way, it is nice of you to ask for our opinions and then flame us all like we are morons. Why in the hell did you even ask the fucking question if you were going to flame everyone for their opinions? Seems kind of stupid to me. IP: Logged |
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ajc1977 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 648) |
posted July 26, 2000 08:06 PM
Opinions are like assholes...Everbody has one. Mine just happens to be the same as almost everyone else's. (I'm talking about my opinion, not the other thing.) I pull back. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 181) |
posted July 27, 2000 12:18 AM
Seems to me like you are the one who is misinformed, lqdmscle. IP: Logged |
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WCP Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1330) |
posted July 27, 2000 02:06 AM
Damn that post got rude.. Good post Maverick... Sounds like the real deal to me...its always how Ive studied it.. later, IP: Logged |
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Lqdmscle Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 216) |
posted July 27, 2000 04:04 AM
Take it easy guys. Maverick, I will do my next cycle like I always did. I didn't mean to make you guys sound stupid. ajc1977, what I said is not an opinion. Its a fact! The testosterone esters are already modified to stay in the body. Sorry if I treat you guys like morons. It was not my intention.
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macavoy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 98) |
posted July 27, 2000 04:20 AM
pull back,save a life. yours. Its just like doses and everything else. BE SMART & cautious. IP: Logged |
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Jeff_rys Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 536) |
posted July 27, 2000 05:32 AM
bump for the guys who pull back. Anyway it is meant to be injected intramuscular. If it was meant to be injected in a vein then this would be mentionned on the little paper that comes along with the amps. Besides it is not because you never had problems, that you never will. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short IP: Logged |
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Jeff_rys Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 536) |
posted July 27, 2000 05:36 AM
l forgot to mention. Since you refuse to pull back, why don't you hit your vein on the bi and push the stuff in right there (everytime). Since it isn't all that bad why use the glute when the bi's are far easier to access. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short IP: Logged |
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Arnold Yates Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 7) |
posted July 27, 2000 06:06 AM
I never pull back. For some reason I am scared too. What if you pull back and there is no blood? Do you just continue to inject? In that case wouldn't you be injecting air into your muscle? If you aim for the right spot everytime there is no need to pull back on the plunger. IP: Logged |
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Jeff_rys Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 536) |
posted July 27, 2000 06:27 AM
if you pull back and there is no blood, you are ok. As l said hold your syringe with an angle of 45�. The air will mount to the top of the syringe (to the end of the plunger). When you inject all stuff will be in your butt, the bubbles will stay in the needle, maybe one little bubble goes in, but you can see what happens). If you don't pull back the few drops in the needle are wasted and who wants that. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short IP: Logged |
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Lqdmscle Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 216) |
posted July 27, 2000 07:15 AM
I didn't say to inject directly into the vein. It is intended for IM, but when you do so many injections, eventually you'll hit veins and capillaries. You can shoot pump n pose in your bis Jeff_rys. ------------------ [This message has been edited by Lqdmscle (edited July 27, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Jeff_rys Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 536) |
posted July 27, 2000 11:51 AM
that is true, but also Winny and PGF2a. All l want to say is, stay safe, don't take any risk what so ever. See it like this : since some guys never pull back, try pulling back and the first time you see blood in the syringe, and this can be a lot of blood, THEN decide if you are going to inject right there or choose another place. Because if you hadden't pull back, you wouldn't know you where in a vein. Scarry thought he. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short IP: Logged |
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YellowD98 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 321) |
posted July 27, 2000 12:02 PM
I always pull back, takes less than 2 seconds to do it. Who the hell wants a glob of oil going to their heart? A glob of anything, ESPECIALLY thicker than your blood, in your circulatory system is NOT a good thing. Your kidneys will probably pick up on the high concentration of oily fluids coming through and start sending it out the peehole. Its sort of how CO2 is not bad for you to breathe it in, but when it starts to misplace oxygen, it can be lethal. Why even take the CHANCE that you could: waste gear, suffer side effects, inject air into a vein, kill yourself? It takes 2 FUCKING SECONDS to do it, so stop being lazy. Its a personal choice I guess. IP: Logged |
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Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 181) |
posted July 27, 2000 12:58 PM
That is OK, lqdmscle. Your post seemed like a flame and that kinda pissed me off. If it was not intended that way then there are no hard feelings. Peace... IP: Logged |
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MP5 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 242) |
posted July 27, 2000 01:04 PM
what was the purpose of this post? ldq, you are being stupid. IP: Logged |
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ryry Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 661) |
posted July 27, 2000 01:45 PM
its not that hard to pull back, are you like "too big" or something that you can't reach? better safe than sorry... ------------------ IP: Logged |
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lexicon Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 359) |
posted July 27, 2000 02:19 PM
I have given/taken a lot of shots and never pulled back. It's a fact that you do not need to do this on i.m. shots. If you feel better doing it, fine. This is just a fallacy which came about from people seeing addicts mainlining in movies and such. When mainling you have to pull back so you know you are in the vein as it won't work correctly if you are not. Doctors, Nurses, Vets will all say this is the truth. IP: Logged |
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chestyII Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 690) |
posted July 27, 2000 02:37 PM
One thing I have found is that when doing frequent large injections into the thigh's, (3 cc's each thigh, three times a week) some bruising takes place and when you inject into or near the same spot eventually you will get some blood in the syringe when there was none before. Now I am pretty sure that veins don't migrate, but if you get blood where you didn't before it should be safe. That is the premise I have used and it has not harmed me yet. If anything given the way the veins run in the legs, I find it more probable that you will pierce a vein on the way in which would cause bleeding, as opposed to actually going into the vein as when drawing blood or starting an iv. I don't think it matters much either way, but I am not a doctor/nurse and only have personal experience. I would be more worried about infections and such as opposed to drawing back. chesty IP: Logged |
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