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Infinity Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 10) |
posted July 25, 2000 04:49 PM
  
Hey, I was considering buying some of the steroid precursors from Mass Quantities like Norabol and Andro Infusion. I was wondering if anybody could tell me if they actually work or not. I really don't want to do steriods and i was wondering if this would be an effective alternative. Thanks for any advice. IP: Logged |
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The Franchise Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 46) |
posted July 25, 2000 04:50 PM
Bump! IP: Logged |
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mightydog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 536) |
posted July 25, 2000 04:52 PM
Absolutely NO, they don't work. IP: Logged |
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big_guy1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1201) |
posted July 25, 2000 04:52 PM
hate to tell ya, but if you are on andro or any of those supps you are taking steroids... big-guy IP: Logged |
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foreverblast Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 128) |
posted July 25, 2000 04:54 PM
quit the bullshit precursor shit. john IP: Logged |
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Infinity Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 10) |
posted July 25, 2000 04:56 PM
If they are steroids than how can they absolutely not work? Is it just that they don't work as well as gear? My main reason for considering them is that they are legal and no injectoin required. IP: Logged |
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Green Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 355) |
posted July 25, 2000 04:57 PM
Are you being sarcastic Big? I took andro and it sucked huge balls. Nothing like a little test in the diet. LAter, Green IP: Logged |
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Ice Man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 578) |
posted July 25, 2000 04:57 PM
The money and sides, at a dosage to do any damn good, is not worth it. AS done correctly is the way to go. I tried them before AS and this is my experienced opinion. IP: Logged |
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mightydog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 536) |
posted July 25, 2000 05:02 PM
You will get better results eating jelly beans. There legal and non-injectable too! IP: Logged |
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ajc1977 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 589) |
posted July 25, 2000 05:04 PM
Dan Duchaine stated that the only pro hormone that COULD work, would be 4-androdiol in an injectable form. Impact 250 is the only one I have seen that can be injected. I did a bottle to see what it would do. I did put on a little size, but typically andro doesn't do shit. If you spend the money on it, you are going to have to inject, I would just get some of the real thing. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Bchemist Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 59) |
posted July 25, 2000 05:07 PM
I had significant hair loss from andro and no hair loss from test. And I got incredible results from test while getting incredibly disappointed from andro. Go figure..... IP: Logged |
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Spunky Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 181) |
posted July 25, 2000 05:11 PM
From my experience w/ andro and steroid precursors.... You might get some of the same side effects as gear, but none of the gains. IP: Logged |
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Bjaarki Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 103) |
posted July 25, 2000 05:30 PM
Infinity: I respectfully disagree with the bros on this. I think what you're getting here in their negativity about "prohormones" is a little dose of "real gear elitism," not uncommon among "vets," though I may get flamed for saying so. (Just my opinion, bros, and not said with any disrespect; I get elitist about things in my own sphere of experience, same as you!) Anyway, Big Guy is right. The andro and norandro products are steroid hormones. A lot of things are steroids, including cortisone and many other substances. The so-called prohormones are not "scheduled" as anabolic steroids (at least in the U.S., right now, for forensic purposes), so they're legal, but that may change. They have nowhere near the anabolic or androgenic properties of "real gear," because of such factors as mode of delivery (usually oral) and the fact that they must be converted at an attenuated ratio into testosterone (andro) or nandrolone (norandro). As a result, mg by mg their effects (especially at the advertised doses) will not be as pronounced as they are the effectsd of gear, but then gear also has negligible effects at very low doses. But to say that andro or norandro have NO effect is like saying that laudanaum (tincture of opium) has no analgesic effect, just because more refined forms of the basic alkaloid (morphine or heroin) are available. That's not a perfect analogy, but it works. Anyway, see what other opinions you get, then make a decision. Bjaarki ------------------ BECOME SOMEONE'S HERO! IP: Logged |
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Painkiller Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 199) |
posted July 25, 2000 06:11 PM
If u are so afraid of side effects, consider primobolan. IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 569) |
posted July 25, 2000 06:21 PM
Don't go there either, it has side effects, trust me, my dick dripped for weeks on that shit ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Painkiller Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 199) |
posted July 25, 2000 06:24 PM
How much did you take??? Never exp. that before. Have you checked your natural test levels? If they are low naturally you might exp. that. IP: Logged |
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ValVenus Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 13) |
posted July 25, 2000 07:09 PM
Have to agree with bjaarki, they work, but you have to stick with the better brands, everyone seels them now, try Diol stack or nor stack by Substrate(if you can still find it).I have had great results mixing it with tribestan. The problem with most people here, is: #1 No one is willing to go off the gear long enough to try them. #2 All the juiceheads here are trying it right after a cycle, during a major period of catabolism and metabolic disturbance. Do all the clomid and trib you want, you still suffer coming off the gear, why do you think most of you go right back on. Better yet many of you either dissappear from the gym while off, or fool yourselves into thinking that taking deca or other mild stuff "between" cycles isn't really being "on". #3 Try training clean for several months, to the piont where you feel you are getting pumps in the gym again and strength begins to return. Then hit a cycle of Norstack and Tribestan (original, and I guarantee you will feel like you are on the gear. Give it 4 weeks, and you will be amazed. If you are all as disciplined and serious about training and eating as you say you are, it will work. Then enjoy your return to AS, you body will appreciate the break. Sorry for any mis spelling, I'm not proofreading this rant. IP: Logged |
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Painkiller Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 199) |
posted July 25, 2000 07:23 PM
I think that most guys try steroidpre. before they go on the juice. I'm not amazed by the results of precursors.I have tried it a number of times(up to 8 weeks), I did gain som lb's, but that was also from creatine and ton's of protein. I also ended up with a mild case of gyno in my right nipple. This has been confirmed by my doctor..... IP: Logged |
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micke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 395) |
posted July 25, 2000 07:29 PM
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Fukkenshredded Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 93) |
posted July 25, 2000 08:14 PM
They do generate some effect, but they seem to be primarily the minor, unwanted sides. After recently finding out that my gear is fake (oh, joy), I went ahead and started right back on the remaining 4-andro that I had from a while back. I haven't seen anything significant, and this is the second time on this trip. Call me a slow learner. I may try adding tribestan, lots of bros have recommended this stuff in the past to me. I've never tried it. Trouble with any of this stuff is that at the dosages seemingly required to get any effect, you are spending triple what you would on real gear. Even then, apparently the effects are still almost neglegible. Of course, I will have a much more informed opinion on this in a while, as I am forced to this hideous route in the absence of anything legit. I will also be able to comment on whether or not being clean first helps at all---it has been nearly a year since I have cycled anything. Which explains alot. IP: Logged |
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ValVenus Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 13) |
posted July 25, 2000 08:24 PM
Been five years since I've had the real deal, same problem, can't trust anything out there, what I have come across so far has been bogus, worse now than ever. Own my own sports nutrition store, so this gives me unlimited access to product, but I agree, still nothing like the real deal. I stay hard and lean all year round, at 5'9' 195-205. I snowboard all winter, so I actually drop weight when every one else is bulking. I was 240 at one time, but decided I was missing out on alot in life for fear I would "miss" time in the gym due to an injury in something else. Took me 8 years to learn I wasn't gonna make any money doin it. IP: Logged |
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