posted July 25, 2000 03:54 PM            

Why is this? Why is there a predetermined time frame of certain compounds?

This is most likely directly attributed to the receptors, and the adaptation and/or transportation of the compound.

If this is the case, what would the minimum dosage be for the indavidual Anabolic? Ex. for the receptor to become accustomed to Deca, would it take at least 200mg weekly?

Granted, the minimum dosage would be a spectrum to be customized from each indavidual to the next, but you could still use such information.

Do receptors have a limit and do they prepare for an "ultimate" intake before gradual deactivation?

Assuming all of this to be true, this seems like a strategic way to form a cycle for each Anabolic. Ex. Deca
{THEORY}
Week 1]200mg Minimum dose preparing receptors
Week 2]200mg
Week 3]200mg
Week 4]200mg End point of preperation
Week 5]500mg Hitting receptors hardest when most vulnerable
Week 6]400mg Maintaining steady supply of Anabolic
Week 7]400mg
Week 8]400mg
Week 9]400mg
Week10]200mg Tapering for obviouse health reasons

Some would say that hitting the receptors when they are fresh would be the time for heaviest dosages. But certain Anabolics don't give results during the first weeks. So all your doing is waisting AS preparing your receptors for the amount to come, which would be less than optimum. Perhaps this is why tapering cycles work better than non-tapering (to some people). Of course this wouldn't apply to all Anabolics, but to some it might. Think of those first couple of weeks as a warm up set and the following the work sets. Holla at me.

posted July 25, 2000 04:26 PM         

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posted July 25, 2000 08:40 PM            

What type of receptor does X Anabolic correlate with?

If Y Anabolic works in conjunction with X receptor, then what is the offset reaction with remaining receptors and other Anabolics?

Ect.,Ect.

There are many questions to be answered. But with just assumptions, as above, the blood levels would be prepared to transport high levels of Anabolics within a predetermined time frame. Perhaps that is the reason for Esters in the first place. Hopefully someone will start to do legit research on this subject. If only the government and Clinton's bitch ass would support research for a safer more advanced Anabolic, I would be a happy man. But then again, if only I could fuck Jennifer Lopez in the ass, I would be a happier man!

posted July 25, 2000 09:12 PM            

The reason some say it takes 4-5 weeks is that the substance must build up to a certain high in your bloodstream.

Just take higher dosages to start off and then you won't have to wait 4-5 weeks.

The receptors are like empty parking spaces. When you fill it with and AAS it stay filled and there is only a number of parking spaces.

I recommend to hit it hard and then taper or stay at the same rate.

Deca takes long to show effects because it is not a strong anabolic like test. Sure deca is considered more anabolic than androgenic but test is more anabolic and more androgenic than deca.

posted July 25, 2000 09:22 PM         

Second, steroids have a delayed time of visible effects, due to the mechanism by which they effect the body, DNA transcription. Transcription is a slow process, since the DNA has to be activated to produce mRNA, which then must be translated into proteins, which then stimulate metabolic processes. This is not like G-protein coupled receptors, like the beta receptors, where you take ephedrine and 30 min. later you get your effects.

FAST EDDIE was correct, in that most oil based steroids have to build up in the system through multiple dosing. So if one takes low doses, then the drug builds up slowly. This is the reason many advocate the high dose beginings; get the most in the system quickly, and then maintain high levels and then taper off.

posted July 25, 2000 09:23 PM            

I have done 200mg of Deca by itself and it is worthless. In fact I will stick to TEST only or TEST and DBOL only until I decide to compete again and then I will probably do TEST with Winny and Fina plus T3,Clen or ECA.

But for know it is TEST only until I hit about 1000mg a week then maybe I will add in other stuff like EQ or Deca...

Right now it's 750mg of sust for 6 weeks...with clomid eod and at the end 3 weeks...

posted July 25, 2000 10:36 PM            

Number of receptors...hmmm. Seems like inducing hyperplasia is the only way to increase this to any worthwhile degree. Excessive repeated resistance movement reps can stimulate hyperplasia, but then again, so can clenbuterol. Which to me is interesting. What about huge doses of clen for two months BEFORE the cycle? Just a thought. Of course the windsprint siren song I often sing has a place here, too. More efficient oxygen transport and improved muscle funtion in a depleted state would obviously enhance steroid efficiency. Yep.

The rest might be as simple as diet. Logic seems to be on the side of a prepatory catabolic state right before therapy. Perhaps the receptor warm up theory has merit, but I don't see it. I do see some merit to dramatically decreasing calories for the two or three weeks prior to usage, then increasing calories simultaneously with administration of the goodies.

The weird thing is, nothing in the real world is ever like it is on paper. Halotestin looks like you could turn into a human dinosaur by using it. I guess not, though. Sure is anabolic stuff. Clenbuterol also seems more interesting in theory than in practice. Trouble with the best theory is the required dosages. Who is that brave? Not I.

posted July 25, 2000 11:47 PM            

I've thought about this exact subject long and hard over the past few years.
Every theory that I thought would pan out always was effected some way in actual application. I used to think that there was a "best way" to performance enhancement but have come to realize that there are so many variables to work with that an individual would literally have to devote every waking momment attempting to control all of them which I was not prepared to do. Maybe, KISS really is the answer...

Bravo for the good post Swollen.

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posted July 26, 2000 04:30 AM            

"All roids have anabolic and androgenic ratios..."

Does any one know where i can find a listing of the rough ratios for each A/S If such a thing exsits...?