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PeteyPete Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 133) |
posted July 24, 2000 02:16 PM
Today i recieved a package and was asked to sign for it, when i declined he said that i could pick it up at the post office. I told him that i would not sign for it because the name on the package does not match my own. I looked at the paper he gave me and noticed that the "signature required" was not checked, I saw him across the street and approached him, i told him that it may belong to the tenent living in my house and that he might be expecting a package, i also showed him that the signature wasn't required, He responded by telling me that A signature was required otherwise my tenent can pick it up at the post office at his leasure. Even after showing him that the signature wasn't required he still wouldn't give it to me. NOthing seemed weird, he was my regular mail man and i didn't notice any strange cars however i would never sign for anything. What should i do???? Should i pick it up at the post office? I was going to sign but i've heard too many horror stories about the feds kicking in doors. also, i have other packages coming and i don't want to have to sign for them too. Any advise would be greatly appreciated. IP: Logged |
B.U.D.S Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 15) |
posted July 24, 2000 02:19 PM
If it were me- Better safe than sorry. IP: Logged |
YellowD98 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 306) |
posted July 24, 2000 02:20 PM
That really sucks. I would have kicked his head in and ran with the package. There's no way you should ever try to claim a package, probably would have been best to tell him to return it to sender... how much did you order? Good sources usually try to fit everything into a small enough box that it can just be put in your mail box so you don't have to deal with that. IP: Logged |
PeteyPete Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 133) |
posted July 24, 2000 02:23 PM
It was a small package, it could have easily fit in the mail box, i wish i didn't even answer the door, mabye he would have just left it outside. Shit this is frustration, especailly because i know that the rest will becoming tomorrow or the day after, he'll ask for another signature. I'm not even gunna answer the door. I should have signed and gave it to my girlfriend and told her to get the hell out of here, that way if they come knocking on my door and search, they'll find nothing. she would have been long gone [This message has been edited by PeteyPete (edited July 24, 2000).] IP: Logged |
xtreemrush Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 324) |
posted July 24, 2000 02:24 PM
also, if that was your regular postman, then you may be screwed on future deliveries. You might want to try to get a PO Box somewhere. IP: Logged |
ulter Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 211) |
posted July 24, 2000 02:46 PM
DON'T SIGN! DON'T SIGN! DON'T SIGN! I am speaking from experience. I spent several hours in a little room with a table that had me on one side and 3 FBI agents on the other. You know what I did wrong? I WENT TO THE POST OFFICE AND SIGNED FOR THE PACKAGE. They found your stuff... forget it. IP: Logged |
PeteyPete Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 133) |
posted July 24, 2000 03:00 PM
Ulter, NOW I'M SCARED! IP: Logged |
JonBlaze Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 85) |
posted July 24, 2000 03:05 PM
Just do not sign for it and they got nothin. If someone comes around askin just say you have no idea why the package came to your address. They cannot do shit, if you do this. IP: Logged |
ulter Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 211) |
posted July 24, 2000 03:10 PM
Don't be scared. They can't do shit to you if you don't sign. But yeah it makes your heart race. I never saw the agents standing there and they were right next to me, when the badges came out I almost wet my pants. Hey You don't know who sent that shit to you. It's not yours and your not going to sign for it. Period. End Game. E-mail me if you want to talk about it. IP: Logged |
ARISTIMUQO Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 21) |
posted July 24, 2000 03:22 PM
If you are new to the game of �mail order gear� on the Underground you must follow some suggestions, this knowledge will keep you from getting in unneeded trouble; NEVER sign for or acknowledge ordering a package. (example), if a postman will not deliver without a receiving signature, write it off as loss and change your source. This is the most important rule! If the postman tries to give you a package and have you sign for it, tell him/her that you weren�t expecting anything from (wherever/whomever) and the name on the package doesn�t even live here. If they persist, you can bet your ass something is up! Tell them to go away and close the door on them. Do no buy into any story that they serve you. This should go without stating, if you are being followed to your P.O. Box (by someone you suspect as law enforcement) abort the pickup. If you have picked up the package already and notice that you are being tailed, go to the nearest mailbox and dump the package. When picking up the package, keep an eye out. Don�t be too paranoid. But , if something doesnt seem right to you, don�t pick up the package. When you know that the package has been delivered to your mailbox of your home, take it inside, and have a magic marker handy. As soon as the package is in your home, IMMDIATELY write across the face of the package in clear legible script: RETURN- NOT AT THIS ADDRESS or RETURN TO THE SENDER. Leave it in an area that is close to the front door to make it look like you were going to drop it back in the mailbox as a rejected item on your very next trip outside. If you are being watched, and they approach you, they have nothing on you as you were just about to toss it back in the mailbox as a rejected item. If no one approaches you, you should be O.K. But, just to make sure, don�t Open the package for a day or two, if the law is staking you out, they will make their move within 24 hours. You can be sure that they won�t wait more than a few days after you receive the package to try and bust you. After a two to three days, you should be cool. (for any questions feel free to email me). PS. all express mail service need sing IP: Logged |
pillboy Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 186) |
posted July 24, 2000 03:30 PM
E-mail your source and tell him what happened, and tell him it will be returned. Then get a PO box and have him re-send. BUT NEVER SIGN FOR IT, that alone says you are guilty. IP: Logged |
ARISTIMUQO Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 21) |
posted July 24, 2000 03:37 PM
Once that the package have been returned, will get to lose it because always the address sender is fake. IP: Logged |
Beezers Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 135) |
posted July 24, 2000 03:41 PM
If you have a PO box do you have to sign for your packages? IP: Logged |
PeteyPete Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 133) |
posted July 25, 2000 02:44 AM
Bumpin it, does anyone else have anything to add....... IP: Logged |
stickboy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18) |
posted July 25, 2000 03:12 AM
just what everyone else said, don't sign. and if you have anymore questions you should refer to rick collins website. he is a lawyer well versed in steroid law. i had a package confiscated, and dicks came to my house. i was freaking, until i talked to rick. he has his # on his website, and he actually talks to you. i am sure you are fine, and don't need legal advice, but he is very smart and can help you for future mail order peace of mind IP: Logged |
Dexter Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 710) |
posted July 25, 2000 08:57 AM
Pete, it sounds like the post office fucked up. My advice: Sign for the package, start your cycle, get big, and don't worry about the cops. Dexter ------------------ IP: Logged |
foreverblast Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 128) |
posted July 25, 2000 11:25 AM
you should have just asked the mailman why in the FUCK he wouldnt' give the shit to you if it says CLEARLY that a FUCKING signature was not required. What right did he have to refuse you a package and make you do things that's not warranted? Why in hell did you not confront him and make him hand over the fucking package? I would have asked for the phone number to his god damn boss and call his ass right there with my cell phone and demand that he came out to your neighborhood... I'd make the freaking mailman have the worst day in his life and still end up handing over my package. IP: Logged |
Slopain Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 997) |
posted July 25, 2000 11:39 AM
I don't know foreverblast, he is dealing with illegal items - that would just arrouse more suspiscion. I do agree that his postman is a damn jackass though, and that isn't the first time I have heard of them requiring a signature for something that really doesn't need it. unless it was express mail... good post ARISTIMUQO!! Slopain IP: Logged |
mokhtarsayed Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 178) |
posted July 25, 2000 11:41 AM
I'm with Dexter on this. If it's your regular postman, and the order isn't huge. I'd say the risks aren't too high. ------------------ _______________________ IP: Logged |
Tiberius Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 5) |
posted July 25, 2000 11:47 AM
I agree with Dexter and Mokhtarsayed. Sign for the damn package and enjoy yourself. ------------------ IP: Logged |
PeteyPete Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 133) |
posted July 25, 2000 01:06 PM
A little update, i went down to the post office and asked for the package, they refused to let me see it without identification. WHen i got home i called and told them to redeliver the package. The guy was cool and just said that "i'll get it out tomorrow, make sure your home to recieve it, since it's regestered you need to recieve it and sign" I'll sign and pass it off as my roomates, i won't open it for a while though, mabye i'll keep it at my girls house, IP: Logged |
Maverik Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 150) |
posted July 25, 2000 01:31 PM
Good Luck. IP: Logged |
shmucko Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 156) |
posted July 25, 2000 01:37 PM
I had an Post Office' Express Mail package on my porch on Sunday. Having it delivered Sun. was weird but they made no attempt to have me sign, they didn't even knock on the door and I was obviously home. IP: Logged |
mokhtarsayed Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 178) |
posted July 25, 2000 01:45 PM
Best of luck bro, tell us what happens. I'm sure it'll be OK. Just don't keep it at home for a few days after you get it. ------------------ _______________________ IP: Logged |
ChefRski Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 179) |
posted July 25, 2000 02:44 PM
Wow.....It's better to be safe than sorry Chef ------------------ IP: Logged |
Zeacky Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 83) |
posted July 25, 2000 11:41 PM
"since it's regestered you need to recieve it and sign" Why was it sent registered mail? IP: Logged |
Swollen Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 179) |
posted July 25, 2000 11:56 PM
Intimedate the postman into giving you the package if it is clearly marked as not needing a signature. Don't do anything too harsh, but let him know you want what is yours. To the guys that were talking about the post dude being regular...postguys/gals are federal employees and can be used at the disposal of any law enforcment agency. Don't go off them just being regular. ------------------ IP: Logged |
mrbill Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 91) |
posted July 25, 2000 11:59 PM
dam bro...be careful, it sounds like they might be setting you up. If it is a setup you are had if you sign for it and take it into your possession. Good luck. IP: Logged |
PeteyPete Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 133) |
posted July 26, 2000 12:31 AM
This situation is making me insane, When he tried to deliver it yesterday i was extremely nervous. Now thinking back on it i was probably too nervous. Another detail about my situation is concerning the time frame involved. I ordered it about 10 days ago internationally. Considering it was international, thats relatively quick. I think that it would have taken alot of effort by the government to set up a sting operation in that short amount of time. As you can see i'm obviously justifying and rationalizing reasons to sign but i don't care! Swollen, i approaced him a second time after he tried to deliver it. I told him that it was likely a package belonging to my tenent. he said " do you want to sign for it then" when i declined i expained that i didn't want to be responcible for anyone else's mail. He just smiled. I showed him the card and told him that i didn't have to sign, he just replied by saying that i did. It was pretty much like beating a dead horse. ya know. Also due to the contents of the package i didn't want any unnecessary attention. I'll keep you guys posted on my delimma, thanx for all the advise, keep it comin... IP: Logged |
Pn2Pwr Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 20) |
posted July 26, 2000 12:41 AM
Hey bros, Well i hope everything turns out ok for you bro, is it true that all express mail have to be signed for? Pn2Pwr IP: Logged |
latman Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 6) |
posted July 26, 2000 01:59 AM
Once you sign for it you have taken possession of it. Whether they find it in your house or not really does not matter. If they are skrewing you then you will have to convince them that it is not yours and you have no idea who it belongs to. Don't say it is your roommates, this is too easy to prove/disprove. Also make sure you have nothing else in the house related to AS, especially on your computer! because they may follow up the delivery with a search warrant. I don't know bud, that signature is a killer. I thought that if this happened to me I would have someone else over that could sign just in case so that they could say they had no idea if it was for you or a roommate or say sent to the wrong place...but then they must be willing to get in the middle of this. Best of luck... IP: Logged |
coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 869) |
posted July 26, 2000 04:17 AM
just sign for the damn thing IP: Logged |
coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 869) |
posted July 26, 2000 04:17 AM
just sign for the damn thing IP: Logged |
ironmaster Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 278) |
posted July 26, 2000 04:34 AM
Something here makes no sense. You said you saw "no sig. required" on the package. But when you talked to the PO they said it was registered. Which is it? Surely your source didn't send it registered. No one but amateurs do. What's the source say? It's a setup if he sent it no sig. priority. IP: Logged |
Dexter Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 710) |
posted July 26, 2000 08:22 AM
ironmaster, I am sure his source did not send it registered, despite what his local post office has claimed. Only an asshole or an imcompetent would send a registered package if it wasn't specifically requested by the client. I know people, by the way, who actually INSIST on signing for traceable packages. Go figure. It is not typical of post offices to require signature on an ordinary overseas parcel post package -- but it is not extraordinary, either. I wonder what goes through the minds of these people in the post offices. Maybe they don't have experience in receiving international packages and just want to cover their asses. I am beginning to think that this "don't sign" thing has been blown way out of proportion and fed by the relatively tiny percent of people who've gotten stung. Go ahead, flame me. If one wants more surety in package delivery, I suggest going with a domestic source, even if it's more expensive generally. There are tradeoffs, however. I surely wouldn't want to be the client of a domestic source who got busted -- and that happens more often than individual users getting stung, I'm sure. If one wants generally lower prices, good customer service, and can stand a few week's transit period for packages, I would suggest going with an overseas source. If the package arrived in an unusually short period of time, I agree with Pete; it would be pretty amazing for the Feds to mount a sting. I'll repeat my earlier suggestion: Sign for the package. Dexter ------------------ IP: Logged |
PeteyPete Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 133) |
posted July 26, 2000 11:28 AM
Insightful post Dexter, thanx everyone for the advise, well see what happens! IP: Logged |
PeteyPete Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 133) |
posted July 26, 2000 12:39 PM
well the package just came and i signed.... just waiting the door doesn't get kicked down within the next couple minutes!!!!!! IP: Logged |
mokhtarsayed Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 178) |
posted July 26, 2000 12:51 PM
1. Make sure it wasn't opened when you received it. If the original packaging is good it'll show. 2. Call up the girlfriend and ask her to keep it at her house for now. 3. Get a needle and inject. 4. Get big. ------------------ _______________________ IP: Logged |
PeteyPete Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 133) |
posted July 26, 2000 12:53 PM
#1, and #2 are already down, #3and #4 are comin soon. thanx everyone, i'm gettin the hell out of here IP: Logged |
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