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Your_Moms_Kneepads
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posted July 23, 2000 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Your_Moms_Kneepads     Edit/Delete Message
A thread was posted earlier about the exact components of Sten. I was told that I was WRONG when it came to whether DHEA or DHT (DI-HydroTestosterone) was in it.
Well just to prove a point I went to Tijuana today and looked in three farmacias. It is NOT DHEA!! IT is DHT.
Why do you think so many people avoid STEN. If it had DHEA then it would have no more side effects than any other test. So-we would have a testosterone blend that would be about $1.00-$1.50 per ampule. Two amps would be equal to a Primosteson or even a Sostenon.
Either you guys are misunderstanding the printing on the box, have never seen real Sten, or you have a bad source of information.

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ajc1977
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posted July 23, 2000 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ajc1977     Edit/Delete Message
On the box, the ester in question is labeled as Prasterona. What makes you believe that it is DHT? I'm not saying you are wrong, but I'm just curious as to what Prasterona means.

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Your_Moms_Kneepads
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posted July 23, 2000 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Your_Moms_Kneepads     Edit/Delete Message
AJC- I went and looked at the box today. I never noticed "Prasterona" all I saw was dihydrostestosterona 20 mg
cyp 75 mg
prop 25 mg

Do you have an old box. These ones are white, have the plastic tray that holds two amps. The amps are 2 ml, have red lettering that is silkscreened on.

Maybe your box is old. The old sten used to come with a syringe too. I am unsure of this.
But do think about what I said about the hair loss- DHEA doesnt cause hair loss.
Also check Physique Enhancement With an edge. It was mentioned that DHEA wasnt available in mexico. (it was in the section where the banned substances were listed.

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InstantGrowth
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posted July 23, 2000 09:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for InstantGrowth     Edit/Delete Message
I have a bunch of Sten, some bought in Rosarito and some in Ensanada. I am looking at a bunch of boxes and they are all the same. So there is only one kind, that throws out the possability that there is two types. Looking at the box the ingredients are just like Knee Pads stated so he is correct.
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ajc1977
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posted July 23, 2000 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ajc1977     Edit/Delete Message
Does anyone have a scanner or pic of one of these boxes? I think E2 may want to put it on his site. I would definately add it to my site if not.
http://profiles.elitefitness.com

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trapper john
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posted July 23, 2000 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trapper john   Click Here to Email trapper john     Edit/Delete Message
I posted before that the box says Prasterona 20 mg. I believe these are newer boxes exp Abr 2002. I am pretty sure that it is DHT as well but i could be wrong....

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Damian Borleone
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posted July 23, 2000 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Damian Borleone   Click Here to Email Damian Borleone     Edit/Delete Message
sten has NO DHT...it has 20mg of Prasterona aka DHEA...sten has NEVER had DHT in it.

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big_guy1
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posted July 24, 2000 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_guy1   Click Here to Email big_guy1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5126477
my understanding of sten was that it used to contain DHT, and now contains DHEA....I have personally never used sten, or even seen a box in person(have seen pics onthe net)..but as far as I know, it now contains DHEA, older amps could still contain DHT however...

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Your_Moms_Kneepads
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posted July 24, 2000 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Your_Moms_Kneepads     Edit/Delete Message
Damian, I guess I will have to get a box and scan it to show everyone. People here are looking at different boxes than I am obviously. As for STEN NEVER having DHT-you are incorrect it does and from the boxes in multiple TJ stores it still does. I find it ironic that people in areas of the country (not near the border) have access to newer stock of Sten than I do.

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whodaman
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posted July 24, 2000 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for whodaman   Click Here to Email whodaman     Edit/Delete Message
are you sure that it didn't say dehydroepiandrosterone? I really hope it is DHEA.....anyone else have any knowlege on this subject? I have an amp right in front of me...but I do not have the box...and the compounds are not written on the amp.

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Damian Borleone
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posted July 24, 2000 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Damian Borleone   Click Here to Email Damian Borleone     Edit/Delete Message
Even back in the day when the sten boxes were white and red and came with a syringe, they still contained DHEA. The only thing that is different about this "new" sten box is that Atlantis has put "Prasterona 20mg" (DHEA) on the box. Previously, it had said "Dehydroepiandrosterona 20mg." People assumed this translated to Dihydrotestosterone (DHT), but it doesn't. Dehydroepiandrosterona(spanish) = Dehydroepiandrosterone(english), the latter being DHEA.

Here are a couple of messages taken from misc.fitness.weights that might interest you (I think most of you know who these guys are):

By: DDuchaine , [email protected] , 12/28/1997

"My fave T, sten (2 amps of 20mg DHEA, 25mg TP, and 75mg TC) costs 15 pesos..."

By: DDuchaine , [email protected] , 4/4/1997

"Shelley (the writer of Physical < Enhancement with an Edge) assumed that sten contained DHT. In reality, sten contains DHEA. I've corrected her on this. Overall though, there are less faux pas' in her book than in WAR..."

By: Patrick Arnold , [email protected] , 2/21/97

(question: I've heard conflicting information on the mex. androgen sten I've read that it contains DHT while other sources claim it is actually DHEA...)
Patrick Arnold's reply: "IT'S DHEA. DON'T ASK AGAIN..."

Btw sten box says the following....

Formula:

Cada ampolleta contiene:

Prasterona 20mg......DHEA 20MG

Ciclopentilpropionato 75mg......TEST CYPIONATE 75MG

Propionato de testosterona 25mg....TEST PROPIONATE 25MG


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ThePitbull
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posted July 24, 2000 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThePitbull   Click Here to Email ThePitbull     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 75689837
Good research Damian!

I didn't realize this was still being debated.

Pitbull

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DocJ
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posted July 24, 2000 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DocJ   Click Here to Email DocJ     Edit/Delete Message
I'll be damned, looks like I need to place an order...

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YellowD98
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posted July 24, 2000 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowD98     Edit/Delete Message
Looks like its DHEA

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GymRatSD
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posted July 24, 2000 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GymRatSD   Click Here to Email GymRatSD     Edit/Delete Message
Although I didn't look at Sten extensively the last time I was in TJ (not on my shopping list), I did notice that the box for Sten was significantly different from the box that E2 has on his web site. The one he has looks quite old. So, I would say that Your_Moms_Kneepads is correct.

I'm digging for more information. If I find anything, I'll divulge.

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DocJ
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posted July 24, 2000 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DocJ   Click Here to Email DocJ     Edit/Delete Message
Any MODS want to weigh in on this? (no pun intended)

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trapper john
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posted July 24, 2000 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trapper john   Click Here to Email trapper john     Edit/Delete Message
I think the one that E2 has is a newer one, although I have heard that Atlantis is going to have a paper label on Sten soon.

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ajc1977
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posted July 24, 2000 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ajc1977     Edit/Delete Message
Does anyone have a pic of a box that I can put on my website?

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whodaman
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posted July 24, 2000 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whodaman   Click Here to Email whodaman     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for clearing that up, good research....

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Twisted_Steel
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posted July 24, 2000 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twisted_Steel   Click Here to Email Twisted_Steel     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 754174
LOL, someone actually said it contained "dehydroepeandrosterone"?? fucking DHEA? HAHAAH, what a fangul.

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