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the captain
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posted July 22, 2000 03:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the captain   Click Here to Email the captain     Edit/Delete Message
is there any comparison? would it even be worth it to take synthroid if you're used to cytomel?
thanx,
tc

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Fukkenshredded
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posted July 22, 2000 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fukkenshredded   Click Here to Email Fukkenshredded     Edit/Delete Message
Stick with the T3.

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the captain
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posted July 22, 2000 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the captain   Click Here to Email the captain     Edit/Delete Message
i'm out, that's why i'm asking. is there an equivelance between the two?

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Little_Hurt
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posted July 22, 2000 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Little_Hurt   Click Here to Email Little_Hurt     Edit/Delete Message
Captain,

bro did you get me email?

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Wynn
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posted July 22, 2000 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wynn   Click Here to Email Wynn     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 57136133
I saved this from another post:

Author: DeMarcoDMAN ([email protected])
Subject: T3 Vs. T4

To answer your question right off, T4 is less taxing than T3 on the thyroid. Normally, the thyroid glands make more T4 than T3 anyway, due to the fact that T3 is the biologically active form of thyroid hormone. Now as to which is better in terms of supplementation. It would have to be T3 based on which was said to be the biologically active hormone. When T3 is really needed, it is converted from T4 to T3, and then you get the effects of thyroid hormone. Now what if you took a whole lot of T4, well in that case there is an enzyme in the body call Type 1, 5'- deiodinase which is responsible for the conversion of T4 to T3. The more T4 you have in your blood stream, the more enzyme you will have doing the conversion. The enzyme levels are seenn to be very high in individuals with clinical hyperthyroidism. This enzyme is found in the liver and kidney predominantly. In essense, take the T3. However, if you are taking anything androgenic, you decrease the binding affinity of T3, thus decreasing its ability to do it's work. Hope this helps and not confuses.

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CLEMDOG
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posted July 22, 2000 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CLEMDOG   Click Here to Email CLEMDOG     Edit/Delete Message
your body can only convert so much t4 to t3 at one time due to the amount of the enzyme in the body. YOur ability to burn fat is limited to the rate at which the enzyme converts the thyroid hormones. Synthroid does still work however.

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300 kleen
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posted July 22, 2000 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 300 kleen   Click Here to Email 300 kleen     Edit/Delete Message
T3 is about 4-5 X stronger than T4.

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the captain
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posted July 23, 2000 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the captain   Click Here to Email the captain     Edit/Delete Message
thanx everybody! good feedback, ithink i'll hold out till i get more t3

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i don't think i recieved your email-if you didn't get a response then it must not have came through--try it agin bro

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cockdezl
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posted July 23, 2000 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cockdezl     Edit/Delete Message
T3 is 5 times more potent than T4. As the other posters stated T4 is a storage form of T3, and as T3 is used and excreted more T4 becomes converted to T3. BUT on a diet, when calories are restricted, the body begins to reduce the conversion of T4 to T3. This is done to maintain LBM, and is the reason one sees a dip in body temperature (metabolism). So for best results one should take T3 since it is already the active form. I hope you are aware that anabolics should be taken with T3 to reduce the amount of LBM that can be lost.

P.S. Lipokinetix contains T2 (diiodothyronine), which may be the responsible compound for increasing metabolism (T3 may convert to T2 in the tissues). It has a slightly lowering effect on TSH levels, but still causes suppression.

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