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glenbenton
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posted July 21, 2000 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glenbenton   Click Here to Email glenbenton     Edit/Delete Message
does anyone suffer from this during a bulking cycle> and if so what are the best methods to reduce this other then lipsuction? how can i reduce my waste size without lossing muscle mass in the rest of my body? are their and suppluments or roids i cant take to get my waist down to about 31 or 32 inches,or is this just a case of poor genes? i think a person who has a more ectomorphic body type is more likely to put on fat in the stomach and lower back. my dad has worked out for years and he suffers from this spare tire syndrome and it looks like shit

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JUGGERNAULT
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posted July 21, 2000 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JUGGERNAULT   Click Here to Email JUGGERNAULT     Edit/Delete Message
IVE GOT THE SAME PROBLEM BRO. BUMP FOR SOME INFO.

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Jim Layhoe
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posted July 21, 2000 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jim Layhoe   Click Here to Email Jim Layhoe     Edit/Delete Message
all my bulking cycle.

The best thing that works for me is to untuck
my shirts and live with it for the few months i have it.THATS IT.

I don't mind it all that much.I love being
able to manipulate my body.

[This message has been edited by Jim Layhoe (edited July 21, 2000).]

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ajc1977
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posted July 21, 2000 08:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ajc1977     Edit/Delete Message
I think a lot of us do. I've considered lipo too. My bodyfat is 9% now, and I look pretty lean in a tank top, but if my shirt's off ... YUCK. I store damn near all of my fat around my waist.

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glenbenton
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posted July 21, 2000 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glenbenton   Click Here to Email glenbenton     Edit/Delete Message
i dont think doing situps can really help this problem. do you guys know of any exercise that will target this area? is lipo the only way to fix this?

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glenbenton
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posted July 21, 2000 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glenbenton   Click Here to Email glenbenton     Edit/Delete Message
what i dont get is how a 5 foot 10 200 pound man can have a 29 or 30 inch waist. it boggles my mind

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Maverik
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posted July 21, 2000 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maverik   Click Here to Email Maverik     Edit/Delete Message
Most people don't have good results with trying to spot reduce so ab work will not make much difference. I have also heard that the fat reduction from lipo can come back quickly. Reducing your BF is probably the only solution.

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Big Wiggs
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posted July 21, 2000 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big Wiggs   Click Here to Email Big Wiggs     Edit/Delete Message
I have 3 words for ya: CLEN & T-3!

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Fukkenshredded
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posted July 21, 2000 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fukkenshredded   Click Here to Email Fukkenshredded     Edit/Delete Message
There is a 'magic exercise' so to speak, and I have posted it several times on this board. Windsprints. It mystifies me why there is not more print addressing this exercise approach and its effect on the body. I thoroughly understand the reasons that windsprints work, but to completely cover the topic would require too much space. I will, however, encapsulate the primary chain of logic now. As you are no doubt aware, the culprit that impedes fat loss the most is sugar. That is why you always hear about carb reduction. Well...what are you burning during intense ANAEROBIC exercise? You got it. Sugar. So guess what? No sugar left to store as fat. If you reduce sugar intake and incorporate windsprints into your daily routine, you will be absolutely stunned at how the fat seems to beam itself into a parallel dimension. Simultaneously, you are increasing the mitochondria population in your body, therefore creating a more biologically active environment; i.e. faster metabolism. Lastly, there are repurcussions from forcing the leg musculature to work vigorously in an oxygen depleted state. Suffice it to say that the effects combine to burn fat much faster than any other exercise...even faster than any drug. I have proven to myself and some of my skepical friends many times. Wanna lose the love handles?? WINDSPRINTS EVERY DAY. Sprint on the treadmill for sixty seconds, then walk at max pace for two minutes, and repeat until vapor lock. There ya go.

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Bchemist
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posted July 21, 2000 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bchemist   Click Here to Email Bchemist     Edit/Delete Message
I am the same way...I have to get to like 5-6% to lose that last "ring around the belly button" and it drives me crazy! You are absolutely right....ectomorphs have it the worst when it comes to where fat is stored. My mesomorph friends can be over 10% and still have no gut...while I can have striations and vascularity in my arms and chest yet still won't sit down with my shirt off without the fear of seeing jelly rolls...

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aahthit
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posted July 21, 2000 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aahthit   Click Here to Email aahthit     Edit/Delete Message
I don't care what anyone says. I love being an ectomorph just because it's easy to put size on from food. Good size, bad size,...when you're bulking it's all good. That spare tire? Forget spot reducing. Doesn't work. I like the windsprints idea and will be trying that really soon. ( Goddamm dieting sucks so f'n bad. I'm miserible,...can you tell? ) Sugar is an ectomorph's mortal enemy. It fuels great workouts, but inflates your tire. If you really want to ditch the fat, rework your diet and eliminate most of your simple sugars ( and pick up some Halo's to help you through those messed-up, carb-depleted workouts).

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glenbenton
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posted July 21, 2000 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glenbenton   Click Here to Email glenbenton     Edit/Delete Message
ill give the windsprints a try

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BCS
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posted July 21, 2000 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BCS     Edit/Delete Message
DIET! Cut your fat intake down as low as possible and do some fat burning cardio. If your bulking, don't worry about it until your done bulking. Since all men tend to store fat in these specific areas, it is easy to lose it at all other parts of the body but the only way to get rid of it is through DIET!

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted July 21, 2000 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
NO CARDIO DURING BULKING CYCLE.

You're supposed to eat until you shit, feel like crap, and look shitty. (ha ha but you get the idea)

Just an idea - bulk in winter guys. From Sept until March I pretty much eat everything (I throw a light phase in there between cycles) and then I start to get lean and do cardio after that.

Matt

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Bchemist
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posted July 22, 2000 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bchemist   Click Here to Email Bchemist     Edit/Delete Message
You're right Matt...bulking in winter is the way to go....unless you live in S. Texas and there is no "winter". God I miss Chicago sometimes.....

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jarabbit
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posted July 22, 2000 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jarabbit   Click Here to Email jarabbit     Edit/Delete Message

I fyou can do the windsprints in the sand at the beach. I do these when ever I am near a beach after running in the sand and it is very intense! I have noticed improvements in my calves after 2 or 3 sessions in the sand as well as my legs although not as much as the calves. And endurance - you will get into incredible cardio shape if you can run 30 minutes in the sand non stop. Get tan and the fresh ocean air does wonders for you. By the way this is all in the deep sand not the easy stuff near the ocean.

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Fukkenshredded
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posted July 22, 2000 03:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fukkenshredded   Click Here to Email Fukkenshredded     Edit/Delete Message
It is important that the sprint be absolutely exhausting. Runnung in the sand is probably good for you, but might make focus on the intended outcome difficult. Windsprints should not replace cardio. Cardio keeps your heart in shape...it just doesn't really help all that much when you want to get FUKKENSHREDDED. Windsprints are the key, guys. Trust me on this one, you will be singing songs of joy.

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Bjaarki
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posted July 22, 2000 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bjaarki   Click Here to Email Bjaarki     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting thread. I'm willing to give Fukkenshredded's windsprints a try (FS: Got any web or other sources for windsprint instructions?), but I got news for you bros: Males of species Homo Sapiens Sapiens tend to accumulate excess energy stores around their waists, females of the species tend to store energy around their thighs and asses. Yeah, you can lose this fat (it'll be the very last to go), but you'll get it back pronto (it's the very quickest to return) as soon as you consume one calorie more than you burn or build with. And this will only get more pronounced as you age.

My advice: If you're still young, get rid of your drooping love handles now, so that you won't develop a roll of loose, excess skin that will be even harder than the underlying fat to lose as you age. But having taken care of that, don't sweat a LITTLE extra pudge around the middle, since you have to be in a hypernourished state to build LBM anyway, and some of the nourishment has gotta go to your ponch.

Just keep it within normal limits, and save up your pennies for a lipo and tummy tuck if your narcissism just can't tolerate what nature intended.

Sorry, bros, but them's the facts.

Bjaarki

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Puc
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posted July 22, 2000 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Puc   Click Here to Email Puc     Edit/Delete Message
A couple of points...

1) It isn't just ectomorphs that accumulate at the waist. My crazy meso-self is sitting here counting my stomach rolls and crazy veins in every other part of my body. I echo Bjaarki in hhis statement about keeping bodyfat low. Years of obesity have left me with some loose skin (and I am only 23).

2) If you want some research/info about interval training and low carb, check out Lyle McDonalds "The Ketogenic Diet" He speaks of interval training and gives lots of sources of data. Also talks about low carb (obviously, by the title)

3) I firmly believe that lower carb = lower bodyfat. This is why I do aerobic excercise at intesities far above the mainstream 65% of max recommendations. Sure, if you cardio at lower levels more of your energy comes from FFA's, but that is at the expense of liver/blood sugars that I would rather be burning. But, hey, this is just an opinion, and I am a sugar-hater.

Puc

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glenbenton
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posted July 23, 2000 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for glenbenton   Click Here to Email glenbenton     Edit/Delete Message
yo should i stop eating bread? what else has a shitload of carbs?

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Simon
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posted July 23, 2000 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Simon   Click Here to Email Simon     Edit/Delete Message
I agree, start basing your diet around the Glycemic Index, eating higher GI carbs earlier in the day then tapering down to lower GI carbs at night.

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lexicon
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posted July 23, 2000 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lexicon   Click Here to Email lexicon     Edit/Delete Message
Glenbenton,
You need to go easier on yourself man! You don't need a 30/31 inch waist unless you want to be in the top 99% of men.
Keep working out, eating right, using AS smartly, take care of your Gyno problem and everything will seem much better. Attack one problem at a time instead of 10.

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Anabolicum Mister
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posted July 23, 2000 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anabolicum Mister   Click Here to Email Anabolicum Mister     Edit/Delete Message
Fukkenshredded,

You're not just trying to make us all look like dingers on the teadmill are you?

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glenbenton
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posted July 23, 2000 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glenbenton   Click Here to Email glenbenton     Edit/Delete Message
lexicon you are a good man and i thank you for the advise.

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