posted July 20, 2000 07:59 PM            

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Okay. I've been lifting for the past 4 months, between 3-4 times per week, and have a decent diet. I have noticed some gain in weight and decrease in body fat, but I want to lose the body fat so I can get that cut look before I head back to school in the fall. I am a 20 y/o male, weighting 160 lbs and currently at 12% body fat. I know I need to hit the single digits in order to get cut and get the definition I want. A medic that I know gave me a 10ml, 200mg/ml vial of Depo - Testosterone (testosterone cypionate) � I know this stuff is pure because I know where he got it from - and told me to start out with .5cc the first week and then keep on building up .25 cc every week until I reach 1 cc. I know that my testes will shrink due to the increase of testosterone, but once I stop they'll come back to normal. These are the questions I have: What do you think of the stuff I have? Will this help me achieve my goal? Will just one cycle help me accomplish my goal? Does the cycle he recommends for me work? Is there anything I should worry about � possible side effects? Do I have to worry about my job when the ambulance company I work for requires a drug test? Anything else you want to add? Thanks ahead of time for your help!

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posted July 20, 2000 08:03 PM            

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YOU WONT GET CUT FROM THE STUFF YOU HAVE, AND I THINK THOSE DOSAGES ARE WAAAAY TO LITTLE. EVEN FOR A FIRST TIMER. MY OPINION.

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posted July 20, 2000 08:04 PM            

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hey bro if you have only been working out for 4 months then in my opinion you should not juice ...keep your diet low carbs high protein..do alot of cardio...to make sure you dont lose any muscle weight take in according to your weight 1-2grams of protein per pound you weigh......

if you really wanna juice ...i would go with some winny and eq that shit will shred you up...

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posted July 20, 2000 08:13 PM            

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Way too low of a dose and not enough for a good cycle!!

Try whinny and eq to cut up!!

But wait a while if you have only lifted 4 months!!!

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posted July 20, 2000 08:44 PM            

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So out of curiosity, what will the stuff I have do?

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posted July 20, 2000 09:09 PM            

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In my opinion you need more juice...but if that is all you can get.
3ccs week 1
2ccs week 2-4
1cc week five

It's not going to get you huge...but you will notice some pretty good strength gains with mild size gains.

Don't worry about the drug test...they will not test for steroids.

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posted July 20, 2000 09:12 PM            

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I do agree though, you really haven't been working out long enough to even think about juicing.....and you need to start working out at least 5 days a week especially if you are taking steroids.

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posted July 20, 2000 09:28 PM            

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Sigh, buddy your ignorance on the issue of AS is frightening. May I suggest that your 4 month introduction to resistance training be expanded to one to two years. In that time educate yourself on diet/disipline/dedication. There is no quick fix for the ignorant, only quick failure.

BTW, .5cc???? I believe my ejaculate contains more testosterone.

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posted July 20, 2000 09:36 PM         

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One thing I'd like to add. I'm sure you probably think that Twisted_Steel is just trying to be a rude prick to you, but he's not (I'm assuming). His info is for your benefit, and pretty much right on the money.

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posted July 20, 2000 11:31 PM            

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these guys are right when it comes to the size of the cycle you are talking about, however, the length of time you have been working out is a shady area here. I think that it is kind of a right of passage when they expect that you work out for at least 1-2 years. It is good advise, but questionable. Take my first cycle for instance, I was a US Army Ranger while in the service from 88-93. I was in great shape while in the unit. When i got out of the Army, I went straight to college at LSU. I stopped working out because all of mytime was consumed with school. I finished undergrad in 2years, and went to medical school..could not work out until this yearwhen i started my residency. Anyway, after ~4 months of hitting the iron, i did a sus/deca/dbol cycle (my first) and I grew like David Banner! I went from 190 to 215 or so in 5 weeks. Am at 209 now and have been that way for 3 weeks..cycle ended 5 weeks ago. no sides except slight acne, nolva not needed, used clomid sparingly...I think that since Ihad worked ot all those years before, my muscles responded well to the gear, but my situation may be different from yours. Whatever you decide to do, do so with ALL the facts (and gear) in front of you soyou can make a Quasi-intelligent choice. Hope this helps!

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