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Merlin
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 20, 2000 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Merlin   Click Here to Email Merlin     Edit/Delete Message
First cycle going to stack 200mg of deca and primo a week for 8 weeks is this an alright first cycle, will i need clomid at the end of this cycle and what gains would be expected?
Thanks for any help

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WCP
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posted July 20, 2000 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
Your dosages are too low.

WCP

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Merlin
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posted July 20, 2000 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Merlin   Click Here to Email Merlin     Edit/Delete Message
Dont want any side effects what dosages should i take to give good result and minimal side effects.

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DianaBallBusta
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posted July 20, 2000 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DianaBallBusta   Click Here to Email DianaBallBusta     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 65057870
You probably won't need it but you should def get some. It can't hurt, and even at those low dosages you're nads might try to hibernate for a bit.

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Gabriel
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posted July 20, 2000 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabriel   Click Here to Email Gabriel     Edit/Delete Message
400-600 Deca, 200-300 Primo. Both are mild so unless you are very sensitive to gear you shouldn't have any problems. Clomid isn't a bad idea to end any cycle with.

Expected gains -- Need more info on you, training exp, stats, etc etc

Gabriel

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Romeo
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posted July 20, 2000 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Romeo   Click Here to Email Romeo     Edit/Delete Message
exactly what gab said

peace romeo

honestly gains will probably be minimal maybe 10-15 pounds but chances are they will probably be permenant

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shrugs
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posted July 20, 2000 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shrugs   Click Here to Email shrugs     Edit/Delete Message
i always use clomid in my cycles
and i always have nolvadex on hand just in case cause i am gyno and acne prone

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charlie
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posted July 20, 2000 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie   Click Here to Email charlie     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70980501
I disagree with above.
the dosages all depend on alot of things.
For some of us growth on 200mg of deca a week and 100mg of primo alongside a week is enough to make gains.
Yes the gains wont be as much as taking 400 - 600 mg. but you do have an ideal beginners cycle! see how you go with it!
No need to start running before your walking!

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Luv2Lift
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posted July 20, 2000 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Luv2Lift   Click Here to Email Luv2Lift     Edit/Delete Message
charlie is right on.
another thing--how old are you? Your age DOES matter in determining safe and sane dosages especially if you want to avoid serious sides. I learned that in consulting with the pros for my first cycle. If you're "not so young" anymmore like me, your cycle looks ok--quite safe. You should get modest (keepable)gains with training and a good diet. Just my experience.

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Hercules
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posted July 20, 2000 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hercules   Click Here to Email Hercules     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Charlie. Everyone reacts differently and being your first cycle you will definitely get good gains even at low dosages. I would get some clomid because the deca and primo will give you definite deca dick.

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Merlin
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posted July 20, 2000 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Merlin   Click Here to Email Merlin     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the info guys and in answer to some questions im 19 years old 5 10" and 150lb

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ectomorph
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posted July 20, 2000 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ectomorph   Click Here to Email ectomorph     Edit/Delete Message
In that case put the needles away and grab a fuckin fork!! You need to eat your way to at least 170-180 before you hit the shit. I know it's not what you wanted to hear, but thats the truth.

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Maverik
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posted July 20, 2000 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maverik   Click Here to Email Maverik     Edit/Delete Message
Merlin, don't worry about side-effects so much. Everybody always makes it out like test will give you acne like a teenager and fuck up your body and shit. I am on my 5th week of a 12 week cycle. It is my second cycle. It consist of 500mg sust a week for 7 weeks along with 400mgs of deca and 5 d-bol a day. Then I use winny and primo for the remaining weeks. I was worried about sides too but they have been pretty much non-existant so far. I have a very slight increase in acne and a little more of a temper but that is it. So even at 500mgs of deca and 300mgs of primo a week, your sides will probably be very minimal and preventable for the most part. And no I am not just using my example to represent how everyone reacts. I have two buddies on their 5th week of a similar cycle (minus the dbol) and they have had no sides at all either. So up the dosages a little. Just my 2 cents...

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