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CB38AC
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted July 19, 2000 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
This is what I may do for my first cycle what do you think...
Primo test/sust../..winny.../
500........500......50ED=350wk
500........500......50ED=350..
500........500......50=350
250........750......50=350
250........750......50=350
.0........1000......50=350
.0........1000......50=350
.0........1000......50=350
.0........1000......50=350
..........750........0....
250.......250........0....


I know it's not perfect and there are somethings I could fix but what do you think

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el cubano
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posted July 19, 2000 11:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for el cubano   Click Here to Email el cubano     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 61265596
Just take the winny for the last 4-6 weeks. It will kill your liver! Also, I like to take my high dosages new the beginning and not the end of the cycle.

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The Cuban


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Juice Junkie
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 19, 2000 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juice Junkie   Click Here to Email Juice Junkie     Edit/Delete Message
First if that is your first cycle the dosage on the sus is way to high. Being a first timers take advatage of the fact that you've never done it do a straight cycle of 500mg a week for 6-8 weeks and then off. You can take the winny if you want but the primo I would wait until about a month after you take your last shot of sust. that is the length that sust stays active in the body. Start primo and month after. With sust that should be about the same time you start taking clomid.

Like this:
w1 - 500mg sus
w2 - 500mg sus
w3 - 500mg sus
w4 - 500mg sus
w5 - 500mg sus
w6 - 500mg sus
w7 - sus still active
w8 - sus still active
w9 - sus still active (start clomid)
w10 - sus will faid (clomid all week)
w11 - primobolan 200mg
w12 - primobolan 2-300mg
and so on.

primo will not inhibit natural testosterone production do by waiting you are taking advantage of staying in an anabolixc state while maintaining natural test production this means no crash. This is why primo is known for keeping your gains after a cycle. just my opinion

JJ

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Romeo
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posted July 19, 2000 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Romeo   Click Here to Email Romeo     Edit/Delete Message
those sust levels are way to high for your first cycle ..there is no need to take 1000...do what juice junkie says or i might do something like

w1-750
w2-750
w3-500
w4-500
w5-500
w6-500
w7-250
w8-250

as far as what juice says about the primo that would work and wait till the end of your cycle to do the winny ...because that will cut you up...

peace romeo

---it hurts so good---

P.S. sust is self tapering ...but i would taper anyway

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YellowD98
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posted July 19, 2000 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowD98     Edit/Delete Message
That sure is a lot of sus. Consider that docs often only prescribe 250 mg every week and a half to two weeks, plus this is your first cycle. 500 mg a week for 6 to 8 weeks sounds good, but if you want to take more, load up sus at the beginning of the cycle. 750 for a few then down to 500. 2 mild cycles of sus will get you more results than one big cycle, and you seem to have enough to roll over for a whole other cycle.

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Thick dog
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posted July 19, 2000 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thick dog     Edit/Delete Message
Guys, I don't think he is talking about primobolan. Primo tests are testosterone Enanthate. The test levels may be a little high for a first cycle, but definately save the winnys for the last 5 weeks. Hope you have some clomid with all that test.

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CB38AC
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posted July 19, 2000 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
I wanted to blow up. I expect to gain about 5-7% bodyfat and put on 30-40 pounds.Traded my primo for pfg2 so i'm going with winny and thought the aratest at the beginning would help it kick in faster and at the end would help stabalize faster. Oh well points taken

On the test dosages E2 once said that 750mg per week for 10 weeks was good for a first cycle so these are not that high.

I'm getting armidex and clomid and pfg2 for post cycle.

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CB38AC
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posted July 19, 2000 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CB38AC   Click Here to Email CB38AC     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP

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Bam-Bam
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posted July 19, 2000 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bam-Bam     Edit/Delete Message
e2 said that 750 was good. why do more?

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Lqdmscle
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posted July 19, 2000 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lqdmscle   Click Here to Email Lqdmscle     Edit/Delete Message
750mg of testosterone for first timer? You got to be nuts!!!!

Yeah go ahead with the cycle you have up there. You may gain 30lbs, but when you're off, all the clomid in the world isn't going to help you.

After this cycle, good luck with your next one. Because youre receptors will be shot and you'll have a hard time putting on quality weight. The weight you'll put on will be fat and water.

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<< The body wants to go to equilibrium>>

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dahmer
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posted July 19, 2000 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dahmer   Click Here to Email dahmer     Edit/Delete Message
750 is fine for a first timer. as long as he has decent weight. You have to blast those virgin receptors. Why would you also take Primotest?? I would leave that out and flip your dosages upside down. Start at 750 and work down to 500. Sust is self tapering so you really don't have to go lower then that. How about adding some d-bol and deca??? Take the winny at the end. It will harden you up and help loose that bloated look from all that sust. Go to E2 for the killer first cycle. He always advocates blasting the receptors. Your first is your best so, make it count!!

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