posted July 18, 2000 05:58 PM            

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How does this cycle look. Would like to add
some mass while getting a little more cut. Hoping to put on
20-25lbs and also loose some fat. What do you all think?

Sust. - week 1-4 750mg, week 5-8 500mg.
Deca - week 1-6 400mg, week 7-8 300mg
Primobolan - week 8-15 300mg
Winstrol - week 8-15 50mg eod, or maybe 100mg eod first
4 weeks, then 50mg eod last 4?

Will i need Clomid eod throughout, or how should i use the clomid?
Also will i need Nolvadex for this cycle.
Any input, changes you would make will be appreciated.
This will be my first cycle, have been going back and forth
for a long time doing research and reading this board. I dont want
to waste my first so please let me know.
Im 28, 6ft, about 220lbs,
dont know bodyfat %. Been training for 10 years and been stuck
for a while. Do you think ill put some size on the arms from
this cycle. I now have 19� arms and 51�chest, fairly hard and good height
on the bi's.
Thanks.

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posted July 18, 2000 06:11 PM            

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If I were you bro, I would split this into 2 cycles. Do the sust and the deca on one cycle and the primo and the winny on another cycle. It is very difficult to cut and bulk on the same cycle. With the sust you are going to lose some of your cut anyway, just from water retention. Do the sust as planned, the deca is fine. Add d-bol @ 35mg per day for 3 weeks, 30mg per day for 1 week, then 25mg per day for another week, then stop it. Keep the clomid in @ 50mg eod throughout the whole cycle. Post cycle, do the clomid @ 100mg eod for 1 week. You will get impressive gains from this cycle.

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posted July 18, 2000 06:15 PM            

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Thanks Heavylifter, how long between the two
cycles. 3-4 weeks?

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posted July 18, 2000 06:22 PM            

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This is a very argued question, a lot of people say, time on equals time off, some people say you can move right into the next cycle and long as the gear targets different receptors. I have tried both ways and seem to do fine either way. Experiment, I would go with at least 4 weeks off, since it is your first cycle and the sust will stay active for about 3 weeks after the last injection anyway. That will give you time to get rid of the the water and to see how much of the gains you keep. After this, you will be ready to start the cutting stage.

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posted July 18, 2000 06:29 PM            

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People say to take equal time on and off to let your endocrine system re-adjust. This cycle looks good. You probably won't need clomid throughout, but definitely at the end.

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